Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

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I really think the "TE in a box group" around here might want plug in some Calvin Johnson college tape. Pitts compares with him 1000 times more than some traditional TE. Pitts' isn't quite Johnson on tape but he is really close as by far the most dominate force when on the field.

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This article seems to be in the spirit of your posts here, ArrylT!

https://fftoday.com/articles/orth/21_le ... r_tes.html

This just highlights how amazing Kelce has been- and makes me want to find the next Kelce!

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I really think the "TE in a box group" around here might want plug in some Calvin Johnson college tape. Pitts compares with him 1000 times more than some traditional TE. Pitts' isn't quite Johnson on tape but he is really close as by far the most dominate force when on the field.

Did Pitts run a 4.35 at 239 lbs or post a 42.5” Vertical with a 139 inch broad jump?

Not to take anything away from Pitts who is a fantastic athlete… but he’s not in the same area code as Calvin Johnson. The comparison makes about as much sense as the people comping CEH to MJD last year

[ColdZealDonkeyStrike]

I really think the "TE in a box group" around here might want plug in some Calvin Johnson college tape. Pitts compares with him 1000 times more than some traditional TE. Pitts' isn't quite Johnson on tape but he is really close as by far the most dominate force when on the field.

Did Pitts run a 4.35 at 239 lbs or post a 42.5” Vertical with a 139 inch broad jump?

Not to take anything away from Pitts who is a fantastic athlete… but he’s not in the same area code as Calvin Johnson. The comparison makes about as much sense as the people comping CEH to MJD last year

Yeah, the Calvin comp is too ambitious. But he's closer to Calvin than some of the 1st round TEs people reference when warning about rookie TEs. Pitts is more like a bigger Mike Evans who can't jump as high.

[PR0v3]

Pitts has dynasty startup 1.01 upside in non-SF. He’s an elite WR prospect in your TE slot with by far the most upside of anyone in the class. I also think he’s the safest too considering the replacement value of the WR position. He’s the pretty clear 1.01 to me, it’s unlikely we’ll ever have the chance to draft a prospect like him again considering the TE designation.

[FantasyFreak]

Pitts has dynasty startup 1.01 upside in non-SF. He’s an elite WR prospect in your TE slot with by far the most upside of anyone in the class. I also think he’s the safest too considering the replacement value of the WR position. He’s the pretty clear 1.01 to me, it’s unlikely we’ll ever have the chance to draft a prospect like him again considering the TE designation.

I don't agree with this. I personally think he's a really good prospect but we've seen so many TE's that were supposedly the next big thing crash and burn, and while he may be a better prospect than all of them, he's still at a position that is very difficult to project. I really don't think he's safer than Chase, either. I really like Pitts, but 1.01 in startup upside I think is a hot take, not a reality. In no way is he an elite WR prospect in the TE slot. He's an elite TE prospect. He's simply not a guy that would be an elite WR on the outside. That's a disservice to actual elite WR prospects.

[FantasyFreak]

I really think the "TE in a box group" around here might want plug in some Calvin Johnson college tape. Pitts compares with him 1000 times more than some traditional TE. Pitts' isn't quite Johnson on tape but he is really close as by far the most dominate force when on the field.

Did Pitts run a 4.35 at 239 lbs or post a 42.5” Vertical with a 139 inch broad jump?

Not to take anything away from Pitts who is a fantastic athlete… but he’s not in the same area code as Calvin Johnson. The comparison makes about as much sense as the people comping CEH to MJD last year

Yeah, the Calvin comp is too ambitious. But he's closer to Calvin than some of the 1st round TEs people reference when warning about rookie TEs. Pitts is more like a bigger Mike Evans who can't jump as high.

There's a big difference between 4.35 and 4.49 (pro day adjusted). He''s still a super athletic TE, but he's no Megatron.

[FiremanEd]

Pitts has dynasty startup 1.01 upside in non-SF. He’s an elite WR prospect in your TE slot with by far the most upside of anyone in the class. I also think he’s the safest too considering the replacement value of the WR position. He’s the pretty clear 1.01 to me, it’s unlikely we’ll ever have the chance to draft a prospect like him again considering the TE designation.

I don't agree with this. I personally think he's a really good prospect but we've seen so many TE's that were supposedly the next big thing crash and burn, and while he may be a better prospect than all of them, he's still at a position that is very difficult to project. I really don't think he's safer than Chase, either. I really like Pitts, but 1.01 in startup upside I think is a hot take, not a reality. In no way is he an elite WR prospect in the TE slot. He's an elite TE prospect. He's simply not a guy that would be an elite WR on the outside. That's a disservice to actual elite WR prospects.

What’s there to disagree with in the bolded though? His upside is there. If you’re THE TE and providing a big positional advantage at a ridiculously young age, much like what is being speculated by many to occur (as Kelce, Waller, and potentially even Kittle age), then that is something many could consider. He’s already ascended to TE1 for many. The positional advantage perk can’t be overlooked. I’m not saying that he would be my 1.01, but I’m sure it would be in the discussion for some. RBs have a shorter shelf-life, WRs are plentiful, and TE can be viewed as a differentiator with extended longevity. It is possible given where he is already viewed today, and his insanely young age.

He’s a high-end pass catching prospect, validated by draft capital, with a potentially more valuable positional designation. It all depends if he produces or not, but the variables are there.

[McCafsteez]

Pitts has dynasty startup 1.01 upside in non-SF. He’s an elite WR prospect in your TE slot with by far the most upside of anyone in the class. I also think he’s the safest too considering the replacement value of the WR position. He’s the pretty clear 1.01 to me, it’s unlikely we’ll ever have the chance to draft a prospect like him again considering the TE designation.

Lol i would love to play in your leagues with that logic. Since when is a player who has never played a down in the nfl been the 1.01 in a startup? Never mind Pitts also being a TE

[FiremanEd]

Pitts has dynasty startup 1.01 upside in non-SF. He’s an elite WR prospect in your TE slot with by far the most upside of anyone in the class. I also think he’s the safest too considering the replacement value of the WR position. He’s the pretty clear 1.01 to me, it’s unlikely we’ll ever have the chance to draft a prospect like him again considering the TE designation.

Lol i would love to play in your leagues with that logic. Since when is a player who has never played a down in the nfl been the 1.01 in a startup? Never mind Pitts also being a TE

I took his post to mean that he has 1.01 startup potential as his upside, but that he has him 1.01 in rookie drafts currently (both 1QB). If he did mean he has him currently 1.01 in startup that would overlap with his first point.

Maybe I’m wrong though.

[grandmabetty]

Pitts has dynasty startup 1.01 upside in non-SF. He’s an elite WR prospect in your TE slot with by far the most upside of anyone in the class. I also think he’s the safest too considering the replacement value of the WR position. He’s the pretty clear 1.01 to me, it’s unlikely we’ll ever have the chance to draft a prospect like him again considering the TE designation.

Lol i would love to play in your leagues with that logic. Since when is a player who has never played a down in the nfl been the 1.01 in a startup? Never mind Pitts also being a TE

X2! If you have an opening in your league let me know. I would also like to propose we increase the buy in from whatever it is now to a whole lot more

[PR0v3]

Pitts has dynasty startup 1.01 upside in non-SF. He’s an elite WR prospect in your TE slot with by far the most upside of anyone in the class. I also think he’s the safest too considering the replacement value of the WR position. He’s the pretty clear 1.01 to me, it’s unlikely we’ll ever have the chance to draft a prospect like him again considering the TE designation.

Lol i would love to play in your leagues with that logic. Since when is a player who has never played a down in the nfl been the 1.01 in a startup? Never mind Pitts also being a TE

I took his post to mean that he has 1.01 startup potential as his upside, but that he has him 1.01 in rookie drafts currently (both 1QB). If he did mean he has him currently 1.01 in startup that would overlap with his first point.

Maybe I’m wrong though.

Yes, this.

[FantasyFreak]

Think Gronk scored 10 TD's as a rookie if memory serves.

This is dynasty not redraft. One thing to have an opinion today some may think archaic given how teams are using TE's but be sure an own it if he breaks out.

I draft TE's based on where I see their 3rd year production.

Anyone that has tried to buy a Kelce type is brave enough to draft a Pitts in round 1.

Not commenting on Pitts specifically, but the strategy of spending a high first on a player who won't give you substantial production until year 3 is not a good one in my opinion. Dynasty or not.

I'd say spending a first in redraft on a rookie who won't give substantial production until year 3 would be a far worse strategy than doing it in dynasty...

[ColdZealDonkeyStrike]

Did Pitts run a 4.35 at 239 lbs or post a 42.5” Vertical with a 139 inch broad jump?

Not to take anything away from Pitts who is a fantastic athlete… but he’s not in the same area code as Calvin Johnson. The comparison makes about as much sense as the people comping CEH to MJD last year

Yeah, the Calvin comp is too ambitious. But he's closer to Calvin than some of the 1st round TEs people reference when warning about rookie TEs. Pitts is more like a bigger Mike Evans who can't jump as high.

There's a big difference between 4.35 and 4.49 (pro day adjusted). He''s still a super athletic TE, but he's no Megatron.

Yep, that's generally what I was agreeing with (although the pro day adjustment is just a guess on your/ player profiler's part). Just adding that he's equally or more dissimilar to most other TE prospects that get referenced when people are saying most TEs disappoint for fantasy.

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In no way is he an elite WR prospect in the TE slot. He's an elite TE prospect. He's simply not a guy that would be an elite WR on the outside. That's a disservice to actual elite WR prospects.

Why not? He has age adjusted production in the SEC combined with his athleticism that would make him a phenomenal wr prospect.