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IDP league and owners have brought up an idea to change dt's, de; and lbs to their true playng position. This would mean some dt's to DE and some DE to DT's and some LB to DE (as they are actually edge rushers in a 3-4 scheme)

This is a salary cap/contract league. I like the idea, just wish it was done when we started.

Thoughts about that situation?

What would be the ramifications of something like this? Are salaries based on positions? Is anyone opposed to it? Would it benefit some owners more than others?

we wouldn't have it change current salaries but yes, there are several rostered players that would affect most teams. Like K mack would be a DE not LB, same thing with chandler Jones etc. It would benefit some teams more than others.

This is essentially the position changes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =662154673

we would then update annually

Damn. Changing the designation for 121 players sounds like a lot of work. I don’t play in any IDP leagues, but generally speaking, if you have any sort of tiered scoring (like, for example, a tackle earns more points for a DT than a LB or something), I think a major change like this should require a unanimous vote, or at the very least a 9/12 supermajority. Even if scoring is the same regardless of position, I’d still lean towards just sticking with whatever designation MFL gives them. Seems like it could open up a can of worms if there are guys who line up at multiple positions.

We switched to this when flea flicker changed their standard def setting to true position. They were given the designation edge or il. I like the change bc it groups players with other players that do similar things on the field. Whether or not their hand is in the dirt or not. Does it really make since to have Tj watt in the same group as Darius Leonard? It definitely adds more depth to the il/dt position

One of my leagues made this switch for the 2020 season. Basically, we added an EDR (edge rusher) position and that changed a lot of position designations along the DL, IL, LB categories. Some from all positions were redesignated as EDR. Some were moved from one DL/IL/LB designation to another DL/IL/LB position.

Initially, it was a hassle because rosters had already been crafted with positions in mind, and after the switch some teams had gaps. It wasn't too hard to get used to.

I guess I like it this way, but I can't say it's necessary. In the prior system, most owners were already focusing on players that get to the QB. Creating an EDR position didn't change that. There are still players designated as IL, DL, and LB who are chosen because they get to the QB effectively.

IMO, it's a harmless but probably unnecessary switch.

I think voting for a change is necessary in this case. At least 75%. Also another thing to consider would be to have the change occur next year so that this way here teams have a year to make adjustments to the roster. I always think big rule changes in leagues around scoring or positions should be changed down the road. This gives every owner an opportunity to adjust strategy.

Always an interesting topic in IDP leagues.

From my perspective, using EDR only clouds the situation instead of clarifying it. A previous statement that 3-4 OLBs are EDRs is absolutely untrue as some are and some clearly are not, so which OLBs become ILBs (which they clearly aren’t) and which become EDRs? If you use EDR, then do you classify all 3-4 OLBs and 4-3 DEs as EDRs? That really deflates the 4-3 DEs. If so, what are 3-4 DEs - do they become DTs or do you keep the DE label along with EDRs? How do you label big Nickel and Dime Ss - as ILBs?

I think the key is to use a depth chart service that actively keeps up with schemes and positions. We use mfl as our league service but use FBGs as our depth chart determinant since mfl allows the commish to change player positions. That’s worked well for us so far.

I also believe that part of the fun of IDP is some variability, which makes seeking player value more challenging and gives an edge to FFs who watch coaching/scheme changes as well as players changing to different teams/schemes. And yes, it can be frustrating at times - but again that goes with the challenge.

Ski mask ready wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:46 pm IDP league and owners have brought up an idea to change dt's, de; and lbs to their true playng position. This would mean some dt's to DE and some DE to DT's and some LB to DE (as they are actually edge rushers in a 3-4 scheme)

This is a salary cap/contract league. I like the idea, just wish it was done when we started.

Thoughts about that situation?

We have been doing this for a decade in our IDP salary cap contract years league.

Its not hard at all. BTW, MFL allows this in Commish Area.

If we see a player that is a 3/4 LB as an example but listed on the official team Website as a DE we will change said player to a DE.

We actually give 2 week notification in season to allow owner to adjust roster accordingly since we have fixed contract years and drop penalties.

Any owner can raise an issue anytime but we actually look prior to auction annually at LB's/DE's since we score them differently. We score DB's the same. Salaries are based on a formula of prior year results when available for extensions so changes never affect salary that year.

Our league is extremely stable with very high experience players on defense so it's not an issue.

On average we may change 3-5 positions per year and this is because MFL, as good as they are, do not really focus on defensive players at the same level as offensive players.

It is easy but make sure you have a rule.

Here is our rule:

Player Positions

Given the dynamic nature of IDP, D-4 through the Commissioner will change player designations when appropriate to maintain competitive balance. In the event an in-season move is needed to be made then the affected Owner will have two weeks from notification to make the appropriate change.

The criteria used to determine when a player position change is necessary is based on actual NFL team rosters (official team website) and any Head Coach ‘speak’ about that player. This is the fairest way is to classify a player, consistent with how the NFL team classifies the player.