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Both players are in similar situations. Do you like either of them to catch on somewhere and get back in to WR3 territory?

Alshon has looked washed to me, and has had a long list of injuries in his career. I think Tate can still play, but all of the young WRs coming in to the league over the past couple years are forcing him out.

Zero interest

These are the kinds of guys I love adding to my roster. You can likely get both at very cheap prices, and you can add them as depth. If they go somewhere and get buried on the depth chart then you can drop them with little loss, but if they work their way into being a team’s WR2 or even WR3 for a team with a prolific passing game, they can be viable FF WR3s and bye week fillers.

These kinds of vets always seem to get overlooked for what can be very solid value in dynasty.

Crazier things have happened, but I really don’t see them becoming fantasy relevant

Yeah I've had no interest in either the past 2 years... Could they hit WR3 numbers? Very unlikely (especially for Alshon imo) and I'd rather take a shot on rookies or waiver fodder. Unless your league is deep, has a lot of starters and you're a competing team, I just don't see it

Totally league dependent for me. In shallower leagues, Alshon and Tate will be worthless to me. In leagues where I have very good WR depth, I'll be able to ignore them. In deep leagues and/or leagues where Hollywood Brown or D Parker is my WR2, I'll probably have veterans like Alshon or Tate on my roster.

e.g. in my league listed in my sig, I wouldn't pause to consider these guys. In my 14-team and 16-team leagues, I'll probably late-round target Tate, and maybe Alshon depending on where he lands.

We're in a real slow time of year, aren't we?

Both will sign a short deal and be on some team. I may pick one up to fill in for a bye or rash of injuries. That's about all the thought they'll get from me.

Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:28 am We're in a real slow time of year, aren't we?

Exactly lol. But you need those WR3s. Someone to fill in when one of your studs is on a bye and the other is out 2 weeks with turf toe to keep the ship afloat.

And to be fair to Tate, he was a pretty good fantasy player in 2019. The Giants wanted to make the Slayton thing happen in 2020 and he suffered. If he goes to a contending team less interested in developing young WRs and more interested in winning he could get back to 2019 form imo.

Alshon is more of a long shot. Hes been held back by I juries basically every year of his career and they look to be catching up. But hes still not that old so I'm not sure if hes worth rostering.

I don’t think either will carry value outside of the deepest of leagues. Between the two, I’d guess ayate probably has some tread left on his tires as a slot man. I could see him catching on somewhere and carving out a role, but it’s a long shot.

Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 am These are the kinds of guys I love adding to my roster. You can likely get both at very cheap prices, and you can add them as depth. If they go somewhere and get buried on the depth chart then you can drop them with little loss, but if they work their way into being a team’s WR2 or even WR3 for a team with a prolific passing game, they can be viable FF WR3s and bye week fillers.

Everything you wrote, except the opposite.

These are roster cloggers, and should be avoided by all but the juggernaut contenders in Dynasty. They won't appreciate in value, and the opportunity cost of owning them is the roster space you might have spent speculating on an asset that might gain value, and help you improve your team in the long run.

If you're at the end of your contention window and need a warm body to fill a space, then these are your guys. For any other owner though - you should be trying to find guys that will still be in the league in 2 years.

To be clear these are obviously bottom of the roster guys. In my league, its a choice of rostering Golden Tate or Hakeem Butler type.

MFundercover wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:31 am To be clear these are obviously bottom of the roster guys. In my league, its a choice of rostering Golden Tate or Hakeem Butler type.

My strategy before our league’s rookie draft is to roster guys who situation can unexpectedly improve quickly, and If it doesn’t I just cut for rookie when I make my pick.. So, I guess I’d prefer Tate for now.

After that, give me Butler, I’d rather chase very unlikely to hit upside, than chase unlikely to hit bye week filler

mild wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:19 pm

Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 am These are the kinds of guys I love adding to my roster. You can likely get both at very cheap prices, and you can add them as depth. If they go somewhere and get buried on the depth chart then you can drop them with little loss, but if they work their way into being a team’s WR2 or even WR3 for a team with a prolific passing game, they can be viable FF WR3s and bye week fillers.

Everything you wrote, except the opposite.

These are roster cloggers, and should be avoided by all but the juggernaut contenders in Dynasty. They won't appreciate in value, and the opportunity cost of owning them is the roster space you might have spent speculating on an asset that might gain value, and help you improve your team in the long run.

If you're at the end of your contention window and need a warm body to fill a space, then these are your guys. For any other owner though - you should be trying to find guys that will still be in the league in 2 years.

I guess it depends on roster sizes and starting requirements. If your 10 team league has tight rosters and only starts 2 WRs, I’d agree with your thoughts here. In our 14 team IDP league we carry 45 actives and can start up to 4 WRs. These older guys that can be rostered for next to nothing can have impact if they land in the right spot or catch a break on injured teammates.

I finally dropped Alshon last season. I'm not convinced he plays more than 8 games in a season the rest of his career. His body seems to be breaking down a bit. Very talented receiver in his prime.

Tate, I think he'd be worth a buy for really cheap, but I'd hate to have to count on him in any capacity for my team.

I would think if a league is 14 x 25+ offense players, these guys would already be rostered... I was thinking this was more of a "do you think these guys are worth picking off waivers" in which case you'd think some younger flyer options are also out there.

Tate and Alshon are both rostered in my leagues over guys like Coutee, A. Miller, Trequan, Guyton, James Washington, Peoples-Jones. I'd rather any of those names over Tate/Alshon