DK vs Jefferson With Poll

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DK
9
31%
Jefferson
20
69%
 
Total votes: 29

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DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby The Showstopper » Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:55 pm

With all the talk about Wilson leaving and wanting to run the ball, are we at the point we would trade DK straight up for Jefferson?

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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Anteaters » Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:58 pm

I'm a little crazy, but I like more proof over less proof. DKM has proven his worth longer than JJ, without it being so long that age is a factor in the decision.

I'd love to have either one, but if I had to choose, I'm choosing DKM.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby jjleurquin » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:03 pm

Anteaters wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:58 pm I'm a little crazy, but I like more proof over less proof. DKM has proven his worth longer than JJ, without it being so long that age is a factor in the decision.

I'd love to have either one, but if I had to choose, I'm choosing DKM.
Years of 1k yards production
JJ-1
DK-1
Years of 1k rookie yards production
JJ-1
DK-0
Years of non 1k yards production
JJ-0
DK-1
Mike Evans-0

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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Adam_172 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:08 pm

Give me DK straight up
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Anteaters » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:32 pm

jjleurquin wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:03 pm
Anteaters wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:58 pm I'm a little crazy, but I like more proof over less proof. DKM has proven his worth longer than JJ, without it being so long that age is a factor in the decision.

I'd love to have either one, but if I had to choose, I'm choosing DKM.
Years of 1k yards production
JJ-1
DK-1
Years of 1k rookie yards production
JJ-1
DK-0
Years of non 1k yards production
JJ-0
DK-1
Mike Evans-0
While we're going with selective stats, I'll toss out another:
Years of double digit TDs
JJ-0
DK-1

There isn't a bad choice between the two. I don't think anyone would be disappointed to have either of these guys on their roster.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:40 pm

I still think Metcalf has slightly more value but they are close overall. Both are great young assets.

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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:43 pm

Whichever one is cheaper

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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby krtbuckeye » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:17 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:43 pm Whichever one is cheaper
This ^. I like DK a bit better, but pretty even.
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Never Veto1 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:20 pm

I picked Jefferson but I’m a Vikes fan. Honestly I don’t think you can go wrong with either.
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WR - Garrett Wilson, Jaylen Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Nico Collins, Christian Watson, Jameson Williams, Michael Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Marquise Brown
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Mtt33 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:04 pm

DK slightly for me. The talk of running the ball is blown way out of proportion IMO, they always want to run the ball if they can, doesn’t mean they won’t throw and funnel to Dj and Lockett and likely nobody else.

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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Finfansteve » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:31 pm

I’d take DJ. he’s HUGE and will always be a premier red zone target whoever is throwing the ball for the hawks
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Rb: JT, Gibbs, Montgomery, Roschon, Z. White, Ty Chandler
Wr: AJB, JJ, Chase, waddle, G Wilson
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am

JJ for me.. if he can do what he did with Kirk as a rookie.. I’m pretty sure he can do it with anyone.
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Crouchy » Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:51 am

Well Vikings are a run first offence, even more so than the Seahawks, so that is a moot point. And Cousins is a serviceable QB. You would think that even if Russ leaves they will get a semi decent QB, so a slight downgrade. I would prefer DK still

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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Anteaters » Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:59 am

OhSnapItsAnt wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am JJ for me.. if he can do what he did with Kirk as a rookie.. I’m pretty sure he can do it with anyone.
Not disputing your choice of JJ, but ...

Cousins is not a bad QB. Every time I see threads like "Why is Evans so undervalued?" or other players, I can't believe there's not one for Cousins. In my main league, Cousins was the 10th overall highest scoring QB in 2020, 13th pts/gm.

Cousins is a proven fantasy asset. He's a proven NFL asset. I firmly believe that if Cousins was a free agent, a dozen teams would be trying to sign him to a significant $ contract. Who seriously believes the Jets, Bears, Patriots, Panthers or Washington wouldn't jump at the chance to have Cousins? If you were Indy, wouldn't Cousins have been a better option than Wentz? Better in LV than Carr? I think SF would trade JimmyG for Cousins and probably throw in a 1st.

It's easy to bash Cousins because his contract was a little above his stats for a couple of years, but he's become a go-to punchline without real reason. The truth is, he is a very good NFL QB. Once you get past the top 8-9 QBs, he compares very favorably to the next group.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: DK vs Jefferson With Poll

Postby Mtt33 » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:06 am

Anteaters wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:59 am
OhSnapItsAnt wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am JJ for me.. if he can do what he did with Kirk as a rookie.. I’m pretty sure he can do it with anyone.
Not disputing your choice of JJ, but ...

Cousins is not a bad QB. Every time I see threads like "Why is Evans so undervalued?" or other players, I can't believe there's not one for Cousins. In my main league, Cousins was the 10th overall highest scoring QB in 2020, 13th pts/gm.

Cousins is a proven fantasy asset. He's a proven NFL asset. I firmly believe that if Cousins was a free agent, a dozen teams would be trying to sign him to a significant $ contract. Who seriously believes the Jets, Bears, or Washington wouldn't jump at the chance to have Cousins?

It's easy to bash Cousins because his contract was a little above his stats for a couple of years, but he's become a go-to punchline without real reason. The truth is, he is a very good NFL QB. Once you get past the top 8-9 QBs, he compares very favorably to the next group.
He’s a fine qb, I think it comes from his inability/unwillingness to get the ball downfield to diggs for some reason. He doesn’t like to take any chances at all it seems which isn’t great for WRs but there are much worse qbs. He clearly supported thielen fantasy wise for years and I dont think Jefferson will have any problem getting his.


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