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Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:49 am
by dustyroads
Think if Steelers take one of Harris, Etienne, Williams they would go to 1.01? Currently have Chase as my 1.01, but as a Steelers fan I'd have a hard time with this scenario. Also as a fan I'd rather see them take a QB there (or trade up for one, unlikely as it may be).

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:16 am
by cmizelle
Landing spot makes a huge difference for all these guys...

Just look at last year: http://mizelle.net/mfl/2020/rookies/

CEH was sitting at consensus #10 pre draft, then jumped up to #2 post draft.

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:53 am
by Bronco Billy
dustyroads wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:49 am Think if Steelers take one of Harris, Etienne, Williams they would go to 1.01? Currently have Chase as my 1.01, but as a Steelers fan I'd have a hard time with this scenario. Also as a fan I'd rather see them take a QB there (or trade up for one, unlikely as it may be).
I would be more apt to downgrade any RB PIT picks. The O-line is terrible at run blocking and their QB situation is likely to be degraded with either an even older Roethlisberger or if he gets hurt some turd under center. That skid at the end of the season was no fluke.

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:46 am
by dustyroads
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:53 am
dustyroads wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:49 am Think if Steelers take one of Harris, Etienne, Williams they would go to 1.01? Currently have Chase as my 1.01, but as a Steelers fan I'd have a hard time with this scenario. Also as a fan I'd rather see them take a QB there (or trade up for one, unlikely as it may be).
I would be more apt to downgrade any RB PIT picks. The O-line is terrible at run blocking and their QB situation is likely to be degraded with either an even older Roethlisberger or if he gets hurt some turd under center. That skid at the end of the season was no fluke.
Blocking seems to take huge swings pretty quick year to year (think they were top 10 in 2019), but I can't argue a washed Ben and turds as backups currently. I know they fired their o-line coach along with the coordinator too. I see the points though, guess I'm trying to balance that with the fact if they did take a RB in the first two rounds they'd also probably see the lions share right off the bat as neither Conner or Snell have looked good. Think Conner is JAG, and at best Snell would be a short yardage/goal line guy.

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:42 pm
by yinzername
Olave staying for Sr year...

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:16 pm
by AussieMate
dustyroads wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:46 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:53 am
dustyroads wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:49 am Think if Steelers take one of Harris, Etienne, Williams they would go to 1.01? Currently have Chase as my 1.01, but as a Steelers fan I'd have a hard time with this scenario. Also as a fan I'd rather see them take a QB there (or trade up for one, unlikely as it may be).
I would be more apt to downgrade any RB PIT picks. The O-line is terrible at run blocking and their QB situation is likely to be degraded with either an even older Roethlisberger or if he gets hurt some turd under center. That skid at the end of the season was no fluke.
Blocking seems to take huge swings pretty quick year to year (think they were top 10 in 2019), but I can't argue a washed Ben and turds as backups currently. I know they fired their o-line coach along with the coordinator too. I see the points though, guess I'm trying to balance that with the fact if they did take a RB in the first two rounds they'd also probably see the lions share right off the bat as neither Conner or Snell have looked good. Think Conner is JAG, and at best Snell would be a short yardage/goal line guy.
At this point I'm more interested in if the team is likely to actually feature the RB they draft rather than how good their blocking is. Can have awesome run blocking but love time shares and there goes their value. Same goes with the pass catching, I wouldn't mind that say The Bengals Oline was still bleep if they would at least feature Mixon in the passing game like we know he can do.
So in saying all that I still think Pitts is a + landing spot as they have shown they'll use the either Etienne or Najee to their fullest potential IMO.

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:58 pm
by yinzername
Can u scrub Olave from this?

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:57 pm
by Dux04
cmizelle wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:16 am Landing spot makes a huge difference for all these guys...

Just look at last year: http://mizelle.net/mfl/2020/rookies/

CEH was sitting at consensus #10 pre draft, then jumped up to #2 post draft.
This is great stuff! New to this site so I'm sorry if this question is already out there, but is there anyway to see previous years of SF rookie draft ADP's? Curious to see how they have turned out over the years. Thanks!

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:19 pm
by Sriracha
Dux04 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:57 pm
cmizelle wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:16 am Landing spot makes a huge difference for all these guys...

Just look at last year: http://mizelle.net/mfl/2020/rookies/

CEH was sitting at consensus #10 pre draft, then jumped up to #2 post draft.
This is great stuff! New to this site so I'm sorry if this question is already out there, but is there anyway to see previous years of SF rookie draft ADP's? Curious to see how they have turned out over the years. Thanks!
#10 is a great example of where he should've gone :lol:

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:25 pm
by cmizelle
Dux04 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:57 pm
cmizelle wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:16 am Landing spot makes a huge difference for all these guys...

Just look at last year: http://mizelle.net/mfl/2020/rookies/

CEH was sitting at consensus #10 pre draft, then jumped up to #2 post draft.
This is great stuff! New to this site so I'm sorry if this question is already out there, but is there anyway to see previous years of SF rookie draft ADP's? Curious to see how they have turned out over the years. Thanks!
This has links to all my MFL related stuff: http://mizelle.net/mfl/

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:01 am
by jman3134
What do you do now that Olave is coming back?

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:05 am
by cmizelle
I'll remove him when I get back to my desk later today.

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:37 pm
by cmizelle
cmizelle wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:05 am I'll remove him when I get back to my desk later today.
I had forgotten about this... done now.

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:08 pm
by wickerkat1212
Following

Re: 2021 DLF Community Rookie Rankings (Mizelle)

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:22 pm
by Bronco Billy
Wow is this a weak RB class. If you want a difference maker you'd either better have one of the top 3 picks or being making an aggressive move to get there.