Week 12
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How did the defense let Diggs get so wide open for that interception?
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This game should be rated R. Just real sick and depraved stuff going on right now.
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/jcc6fd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:54 pmI read a piece this week to this effect; that essentially Wentz’s contract makes benching him very difficult and that unless Hurts lights the world on fire going with him can only end badly.mild wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:51 pmBecause they're locked into Wentz for another 2 years with no cap-relief possible.
They're in a glass cage of emotion is what I'm trying to say.
I just can’t imagine things being any worse than they are now.
Eagles are 31st in 2021 projected cap space at -$63.5M
30th Atlanta: -$25M
32nd Saints: -$95M
So ya, they can't afford to bench his contract or the dead cap hits that would come with cutting or trading him. They're stuck with him for better or worse.
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I'm now rooting for the Washington Football team to take the NFC east. Would be rad for Alex Smith make a push in the playoffs & win comeback player of the year.
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Again with the 4th down call. Kick the FG and go down 1 score! Your D is playing well, what the heck are you doing? Pedersen thinks he's Schumacher driving a Ferrari but he's not even Super Mario driving a Lada.
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I get that they can’t cut him but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t bench him for the 2nd round QB they drafted on a rookie contractbjd5211 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:00 pmhttps://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/jcc6fd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:54 pmI read a piece this week to this effect; that essentially Wentz’s contract makes benching him very difficult and that unless Hurts lights the world on fire going with him can only end badly.mild wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:51 pm
Because they're locked into Wentz for another 2 years with no cap-relief possible.
They're in a glass cage of emotion is what I'm trying to say.
I just can’t imagine things being any worse than they are now.
Eagles are 31st in 2021 projected cap space at -$63.5M
30th Atlanta: -$25M
32nd Saints: -$95M
So ya, they can't afford to bench his contract or the dead cap hits that would come with cutting or trading him. They're stuck with him for better or worse.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
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There are 2 possibilities.jcc6fd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:05 pmI get that they can’t cut him but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t bench him for the 2nd round QB they drafted on a rookie contractbjd5211 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:00 pmhttps://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/
Eagles are 31st in 2021 projected cap space at -$63.5M
30th Atlanta: -$25M
32nd Saints: -$95M
So ya, they can't afford to bench his contract or the dead cap hits that would come with cutting or trading him. They're stuck with him for better or worse.
1) Pedersen has seen him in practice and know he's worse than Wentz and that the issues go far beyond just the QB. (Likely)
2) Pedersen is trying to lose and get himself fired. (Less likely)
Having said that, after watching the Eagles fairly closely this year it's apparent to me that he's doing a terrible coaching job.
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1 month ago a leaguemate came to me on my rebuilding team and offered me Dak AND 2nd for Wentz + McKissic + 5th. I had to read the offer 3x because I didn’t believe it, but he wanted to make a run in 2020. Poor guy.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Jones
RB: JT, Kamara, Jacobs, Zeke, Singletary, Moss
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Schultz, Granson, Hill
Picks: 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 2.07
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Jones
RB: JT, Kamara, Jacobs, Zeke, Singletary, Moss
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Schultz, Granson, Hill
Picks: 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 2.07
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My personal theory is that this has almost nothing to do with Hurts and everything to do with Wentz contract. Since he’ll be on the team a minimum one more year and the team isn’t going anywhere there’s no reason to risk hurts development/health by putting him behind their line with limited weapons.
Now next year, if this continues, I’d expect them to turn to Hurts by mid season.
Now next year, if this continues, I’d expect them to turn to Hurts by mid season.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
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I'd agree with that. Can the Eagles cut Wentz in 2022?jcc6fd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:14 pm My personal theory is that this has almost nothing to do with Hurts and everything to do with Wentz contract. Since he’ll be on the team a minimum one more year and the team isn’t going anywhere there’s no reason to risk hurts development/health by putting him behind their line with limited weapons.
Now next year, if this continues, I’d expect them to turn to Hurts by mid season.
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Miles Sanders usage tonight was pitiful. Pretty sure Scott outsnapped him for no reason.
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Yes they can, it will still be a fairly significant cap hit, but it won't be catastrophic like it would be in 2021.perkinsrooster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:19 pmI'd agree with that. Can the Eagles cut Wentz in 2022?jcc6fd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:14 pm My personal theory is that this has almost nothing to do with Hurts and everything to do with Wentz contract. Since he’ll be on the team a minimum one more year and the team isn’t going anywhere there’s no reason to risk hurts development/health by putting him behind their line with limited weapons.
Now next year, if this continues, I’d expect them to turn to Hurts by mid season.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new ... vv2bxch107
Decent breakdown in this article. I can't get his Spotrac page to load for some reason with the full details.
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Dead cap hit in 2021 is $60M but falls to $39.5M in 2022. Seems very steep but I think if he doesn’t improve and they want to try Hurts they will make the switch in 2021 with the intention of cutting Wentz in 2022 while swallowing the hitperkinsrooster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:19 pmI'd agree with that. Can the Eagles cut Wentz in 2022?jcc6fd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:14 pm My personal theory is that this has almost nothing to do with Hurts and everything to do with Wentz contract. Since he’ll be on the team a minimum one more year and the team isn’t going anywhere there’s no reason to risk hurts development/health by putting him behind their line with limited weapons.
Now next year, if this continues, I’d expect them to turn to Hurts by mid season.
https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/pos ... -is-tricky
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
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My take on the situation is that Wentz is a more physically gifted version of Kirk Cousin but with a worse contract ... for what ever reason the Eagles & Vikings invested money into imperfect QBs but never adapted to compensate for their QB’s inadequacies.
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Coming off 2017, Carson looked like a lot more than a more athletic Cousins. He was the MVP of the league before the injury, and the front office figured QB contracts were only going to increase over the years, so they wanted to lock him in before the market value went up.Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:48 pm My take on the situation is that Wentz is a more physically gifted version of Kirk Cousin but with a worse contract ... for what ever reason the Eagles & Vikings invested money into imperfect QBs but never adapted to compensate for their QB’s inadequacies.
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