Veto Trade?
Veto Trade?
Our league is up in arms about a trade that went through a couple days ago...im looking for outside opinions so your thoughts are going to be very helpful.
Team A trades Derrick Henry , D peoples jones and two future 4th round picks
Team B trades Michael Thomas , Drake, Kirk, Higbee , two future 1st rounders two 4ths two 5ths two 6ths two 7ths.
Many in our league are calling for a veto. These two teams are best friends and we are wondering if something afoul is happening.
Non ppr and team B is a power house with Wilson, Chubb, Mccafrey, Henry, Gurley, Claypool, Hilton, Fuller, Cooks, M Brown, Hooper
Also most a team can play is 3 RB unless you are the "away" team where you can only play 2 Rb
In our 20+ league history we have never had a trade vetoed, however this trade isn't even close to fair. Thoughts?
Team A trades Derrick Henry , D peoples jones and two future 4th round picks
Team B trades Michael Thomas , Drake, Kirk, Higbee , two future 1st rounders two 4ths two 5ths two 6ths two 7ths.
Many in our league are calling for a veto. These two teams are best friends and we are wondering if something afoul is happening.
Non ppr and team B is a power house with Wilson, Chubb, Mccafrey, Henry, Gurley, Claypool, Hilton, Fuller, Cooks, M Brown, Hooper
Also most a team can play is 3 RB unless you are the "away" team where you can only play 2 Rb
In our 20+ league history we have never had a trade vetoed, however this trade isn't even close to fair. Thoughts?
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Re: Veto Trade?
Do you pay up for future picks traded? I understand the idea of an overpay, as a contender. It's NON PPR. So DH>MT for the this year, and if he's a contender, maybe next year, too. He may be selling his future for a ship. Being best friends, makes it complicated, but it can also mean they talk about FF more, so they are more prone to making deals. But the team that supposedly lost is the contender? Drake, Kirk, Higbee and the picks OTHER than the firsts are really not much in non PPR. Just filler. I DO think it's an overpay, but MT has been hurt all year, and the guy making the overpay is the contender, so I don't see a reason to veto, unless you can prove collusion. If it were PPR, this would be a different trade completely.
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Re: Veto Trade?
Let it ride
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Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Caleb Williams - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - J Wright - Estime
WR: AJB - Pittman - Odunze - Shaheed - J Burton - R Pearsall - Doubs - E Moore
TE: MAndrews - Bowers - Bellinger - Kraft
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SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - J Brooks - K Miller - J Wright - A Mattison - J Hill - W Shipley
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - J Burton - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Caleb Williams - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - J Wright - Estime
WR: AJB - Pittman - Odunze - Shaheed - J Burton - R Pearsall - Doubs - E Moore
TE: MAndrews - Bowers - Bellinger - Kraft
‘25: one 1st, two 2nds, three 3rds
2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - J Brooks - K Miller - J Wright - A Mattison - J Hill - W Shipley
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - J Burton - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
Re: Veto Trade?
x2 and better than I could write.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:18 pm Do you pay up for future picks traded? I understand the idea of an overpay, as a contender. It's NON PPR. So DH>MT for the this year, and if he's a contender, maybe next year, too. He may be selling his future for a ship. Being best friends, makes it complicated, but it can also mean they talk about FF more, so they are more prone to making deals. But the team that supposedly lost is the contender? Drake, Kirk, Higbee and the picks OTHER than the firsts are really not much in non PPR. Just filler. I DO think it's an overpay, but MT has been hurt all year, and the guy making the overpay is the contender, so I don't see a reason to veto, unless you can prove collusion. If it were PPR, this would be a different trade completely.
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JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
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Re: Veto Trade?
Lol no. As long as dues are paid for the future 1sts there's nothing wrong with the deal. Henry significantly more valuable than MT in non PPR.
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Re: Veto Trade?
IS the Roster you provided for Team B the updated roster? His WR's are weak, but really good at RB. Seems he traded MT and is going RB heavy to try and win, in NON PPR, RB's are king. Again, I don't see a reason to veto, unless collusion can be proven.
Janiel Dones Truther
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Re: Veto Trade?
Good points and yes the team competing for a title is team B and they severely overpaid. I look at it like this. If team B gets a bye round 1 which is probable his lineup prior to the trade assuming no injuries looks like this.
Wilson
Chubb
Mccaffrey
Gurley
Thomas
Brown
Claypool or Hilton
Hooper
With Drake as RB 4 and Kirk and Higbee for deph
After the deal
Wilson
Chubb
Mccafrey
Henry
Brown
Claypool
Hilton
Hooper
This slides gurley into RB 4 so he basically traded a ton of picks and some decent players to subtract Thomas out and replace Gurley for Henry. Im scratching my head.
Wilson
Chubb
Mccaffrey
Gurley
Thomas
Brown
Claypool or Hilton
Hooper
With Drake as RB 4 and Kirk and Higbee for deph
After the deal
Wilson
Chubb
Mccafrey
Henry
Brown
Claypool
Hilton
Hooper
This slides gurley into RB 4 so he basically traded a ton of picks and some decent players to subtract Thomas out and replace Gurley for Henry. Im scratching my head.
Rodgers Winston Goff
Zeke, Fournette, Ingram, Dobbins, Swift
K Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Chark, Sterling Shepard, Corey Davis, AJ Brown, Arcega Whiteside, Shenault
Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Jared Cook, Jonnu Smith,
Zeke, Fournette, Ingram, Dobbins, Swift
K Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Chark, Sterling Shepard, Corey Davis, AJ Brown, Arcega Whiteside, Shenault
Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Jared Cook, Jonnu Smith,
Re: Veto Trade?
Owner may have a plan to move Gurley or another RB for a WR. Plan may not work but sometimes you got let things go to see where they end.
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Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Daniels
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
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Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Daniels
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
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Re: Veto Trade?
@OP
Gurley was pulled from the game for half the game. He has a degenerative knee issue. It may (probably was) have been flaring up. He was on the bike, much like he was with the Rams. It took even less time this year, for that to happen, and Hill looked better, beyond the TD. His YPC are bad, TD's are keeping him afloat. MT hasn't played all year, and DH has gone off late in the year, 2 years in a row. It seems this owner is planning for the worst on Gurley and MT. I really don't think it's that complicated. He overpaid to try and win this year. That's his right.
You've had 20 years without a veto, I don't think this is the time.
Gurley was pulled from the game for half the game. He has a degenerative knee issue. It may (probably was) have been flaring up. He was on the bike, much like he was with the Rams. It took even less time this year, for that to happen, and Hill looked better, beyond the TD. His YPC are bad, TD's are keeping him afloat. MT hasn't played all year, and DH has gone off late in the year, 2 years in a row. It seems this owner is planning for the worst on Gurley and MT. I really don't think it's that complicated. He overpaid to try and win this year. That's his right.
You've had 20 years without a veto, I don't think this is the time.
Janiel Dones Truther
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Re: Veto Trade?
The trade seems fine to me, especially considering MTs injuries, lack of qb certainty, and recent problems.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: Veto Trade?
Ok you all have me convinced, my vote will be to let it ride
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Zeke, Fournette, Ingram, Dobbins, Swift
K Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Chark, Sterling Shepard, Corey Davis, AJ Brown, Arcega Whiteside, Shenault
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Re: Veto Trade?
You guys vote on trades?
Janiel Dones Truther
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Re: Veto Trade?
Guessing a vote is coming up just now because of this particular trade? Either way:
This forum is super anti-veto, I’d guarantee the vast majority would vote that way. I would too in this trade. Honestly don’t think it’s even all that bad.
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12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
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start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
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Re: Veto Trade?
Disband the league and publicly shame all involved.
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
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Re: Veto Trade?
Trade seems fine lol. But never veto anyways. But yeah the team receiving Michael Thomas won, but considering Thomas isn’t playing right now, that’s pretty fair.
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