Because gettleman is on the verge of losing his job and is desperateYouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:06 pm Barkley: HEIGHT 5'11" WEIGHT 233 lbs
Freeman: HEIGHT 5'8" WEIGHT 206 lbs
He should fit through those lack of holes the O-line doesn't open up a lot better?
Lewis: HEIGHT 5'8" WEIGHT 195 lbs
Joke aside they already have a lighter version of Freeman. What's the point of signing Freeman here?
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
Depth? I doubt they want to run out there with only Lewis and a guy that was a healthy scratch last week. It's possible they got him on a cheap 1 year deal, despite what he's been holding out for.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025 | 1stx3, 3rdx3
10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10
12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025 | 1stx3, 3rdx3
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RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
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TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
Steve did you just use my lowball offer to prop up your own!? Savagery You have no shame.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:43 amYour analysis is in depth and hard to disprove.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:35 amNah it was a ridiculous offer.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:22 am Nah. CEH is 1.05 in startups and proving it. Brown is a late 1st and his should be a late 1st in a suspect draft class. Other owner cant win without another rb. Lazard has worked his way into a late 2nd round pick, imo. Adams is dinged up.
CEH has 3 years of production before he gets to Barkleys age next year. Why would i give up CEH for only a late 1st on top of Barkley? If the other dude can win a ship id say it is definitely worth it. Does t mean he SHOULD do it. Just think its a fair cost for someone in a bind. Should someone overpay for a qb in a SF if they lose a stsrter but have every other piece ? Same principle.
There is a vast difference between Cook and CEH as a side note.
You dont own CEH do you? You are selling him plus a late 1st for Barkley today?
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
Id make a great politician.The Godwin Complex wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:02 pmSteve did you just use my lowball offer to prop up your own!? Savagery You have no shame.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:43 amYour analysis is in depth and hard to disprove.
You dont own CEH do you? You are selling him plus a late 1st for Barkley today?
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
Saquon in the 6-10 startup range now and what hasn't been mentioned is that his insulation is nearly gone. Another semi-serious injury in '21 (knock on wood) and he's dropping multiple rounds
Also, SB, Hollywood, 1st is the same as 4 1sts (early, early, mid, late) so yes that's a ridiculous offer.
Also, SB, Hollywood, 1st is the same as 4 1sts (early, early, mid, late) so yes that's a ridiculous offer.
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
Yet on theae forums most peoole say they wouldn't sell ceh for 3 1sts. So how far off is it?Krypto_King wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:17 pm Saquon in the 6-10 startup range now and what hasn't been mentioned is that his insulation is nearly gone. Another semi-serious injury in '21 (knock on wood) and he's dropping multiple rounds
Also, SB, Hollywood, 1st is the same as 4 1sts (early, early, mid, late) so yes that's a ridiculous offer.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: What is Saquons value like now?
Wonder what’s the view on Barkley vs. Chubb? Is he in reality the the line now? Honestly as a Chubb owner in a league of mine I am in doubt.
Team 1, 0.5 PPR SuperFlex: QB, FlexQB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex
QB: Watson, Herbert (Mariota)
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins (Akers, K Herbert)
WR: DJ Moore, Woods, Golladay (T Patrick, Shenault, Rondale M, Cephus)
TE: Goedert (Njoku, Bryant, Trautman)
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RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins (Akers, K Herbert)
WR: DJ Moore, Woods, Golladay (T Patrick, Shenault, Rondale M, Cephus)
TE: Goedert (Njoku, Bryant, Trautman)
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
It's off by Hollywood and the 1st lol SB is worth more than 2 early 1stsSteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:33 pmYet on theae forums most peoole say they wouldn't sell ceh for 3 1sts. So how far off is it?Krypto_King wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:17 pm Saquon in the 6-10 startup range now and what hasn't been mentioned is that his insulation is nearly gone. Another semi-serious injury in '21 (knock on wood) and he's dropping multiple rounds
Also, SB, Hollywood, 1st is the same as 4 1sts (early, early, mid, late) so yes that's a ridiculous offer.
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
You guys are all trading CEH for Barkley right now?
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: What is Saquons value like now?
In the right situation yes. It's about a 50/50 toss up on if people will take that.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:10 pm You guys are all trading CEH for Barkley right now?
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
I’m not. Large gap in perceived value, very little tangible upside. Why trade something on its way up for something that has been leveling off? From this moment in time to the end of next year CEH will have (likely) played 30 games to Barkley’s 16 barring any further injuries. Unless you think Barkley is going to outperform CEH by over 5-8 PPG consistently over that time (or over the next 3-5 years including this one) there’s no reason to believe this is beneficial for CEH owners.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:16 pmIn the right situation yes. It's about a 50/50 toss up on if people will take that.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:10 pm You guys are all trading CEH for Barkley right now?
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
So in the 1 league I have Barkley in I sent out multiple offers that were all rejected.
Give Barkley
Get JT
Give Barkley
Get CEH
Give Barkley
Get Sanders + Pittman Jr
Give Barkley
Get JT
Give Barkley
Get CEH
Give Barkley
Get Sanders + Pittman Jr
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?
So adding that 1st isn't so crazy.
But in all honesty it's just a bad time to sell him. Most teams, unless they are serious rebuilders, want to see how the season shakes out before they buy Barkley with a stud starter. You have a hell of a team if you can trade away a top 12 overall player and not hurt your chances of making playoffs. If this was week 8 I think you get more of those accepted.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: What is Saquons value like now?
Thats the thng, week 8 that window is closed. Im selling now or you arent getting him.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:47 pmSo adding that 1st isn't so crazy.
But in all honesty it's just a bad time to sell him. Most teams, unless they are serious rebuilders, want to see how the season shakes out before they buy Barkley with a stud starter. You have a hell of a team if you can trade away a top 12 overall player and not hurt your chances of making playoffs. If this was week 8 I think you get more of those accepted.
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I know, I get it. It's a weird spot. i meant if you were a contender in week 8 you might make the deal if you needed a RB and there would be more teams willing to accept the trade offers you made.Bot101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:01 pmThats the thng, week 8 that window is closed. Im selling now or you arent getting him.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:47 pmSo adding that 1st isn't so crazy.
But in all honesty it's just a bad time to sell him. Most teams, unless they are serious rebuilders, want to see how the season shakes out before they buy Barkley with a stud starter. You have a hell of a team if you can trade away a top 12 overall player and not hurt your chances of making playoffs. If this was week 8 I think you get more of those accepted.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
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