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Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:50 am
by millworkguy
azthecrow wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
millworkguy wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:07 am
TheNuts wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:40 am

We would be screwed as a country but that's a different topic.
Maybe if she was president, the death rate is the states would be closer to the world average of 97 per million rather then the 507 per million it is, and 120,000 Americans would still be alive.
What’s the death rate for abortion which she is in favor of ?
800,000+ voiceless lives every year in the USA alone. People worried about “saving lives” should pay more attention to that.
Maybe if they didn't cut family planning services that would change, but to expect celibacy is foolish imo. The law is clear, imo, and has been since the 70's.

But Rapists should be castrated. And their victims shouldn't be forced to have their children

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 am
by TheNuts
azthecrow wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
millworkguy wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:07 am
TheNuts wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:40 am

We would be screwed as a country but that's a different topic.
Maybe if she was president, the death rate is the states would be closer to the world average of 97 per million rather then the 507 per million it is, and 120,000 Americans would still be alive.
What’s the death rate for abortion which she is in favor of ?
800,000+ voiceless lives every year in the USA alone. People worried about “saving lives” should pay more attention to that.
Perfect example. The party that wants to shutter the country to save every life possible also wants abortion to be easily accessible. They want someone to have that freedom of choice to abort a baby, but players can't have the freedom of choice to play football

Yet again no one has any measuring stick besides deaths, which could be greatly exaggerated. Nothing about killing our economy, people on the verge of being evicted, mental health issues, domestic abuse.

Maybe the perception that America has a really unhealthy diet is also catching up with us and proving true? There are a lot of morbidly obese people in this country. Let's shut down so thst they can continue to eat double cheeseburgers for breakfast lunch and dinner

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:20 am
by millworkguy
I'm more concerned that the white house is concealing the actual covid numbers since they removed the CDC from reporting them and instructed all information to pass through their doors.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:40 am
by murphysxm
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 am
The party that wants to shutter the country
Dude, this statement sums up what is wrong in our country right now. Some people are listening to politics to make their choices. Some people are listening to the experts and the scientists to guide their decision making. This isn't red versus blue, this is politics vs science. Politics is winning, so we are losing as a country.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:55 am
by TheNuts
murphysxm wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:40 am
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 am
The party that wants to shutter the country
Dude, this statement sums up what is wrong in our country right now. Some people are listening to politics to make their choices. Some people are listening to the experts and the scientists to guide their decision making. This isn't red versus blue, this is politics vs science. Politics is winning, so we are losing as a country.
There are medical experts who are telling us that shuttering is not the best option. They say our immunity needs to build up for us best to deal with sooner. Those scientists never count to the left. That's why I want freedom of choice. You can choose to isolate. Or you can choose to go about your life

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:26 am
by murphysxm
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:55 am
murphysxm wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:40 am
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 am
The party that wants to shutter the country
Dude, this statement sums up what is wrong in our country right now. Some people are listening to politics to make their choices. Some people are listening to the experts and the scientists to guide their decision making. This isn't red versus blue, this is politics vs science. Politics is winning, so we are losing as a country.
There are medical experts who are telling us that shuttering is not the best option. They say our immunity needs to build up for us best to deal with sooner. Those scientists never count to the left. That's why I want freedom of choice. You can choose to isolate. Or you can choose to go about your life
um, that is actally not what they are saying. Herd Immunity is a solution when there is a vaccine. Without one it can be to quote John Hopkins University “But the disastrous situation unfolding at San Quentin State Prison over the last two months has become the latest example of several cautionary tales that show how any effort to achieve herd immunity before a vaccine is available would come with enormous costs in terms of illness and death.”

I am not going to change your mind. However, know that the consensus opinion of the scienctiifc community is against you. Know that you putting your freedom of choice over science will harm other people. My choice to listen to the experts won't impact others negatively.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:03 pm
by prinefan
murphysxm wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:26 am
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:55 am
murphysxm wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:40 am

Dude, this statement sums up what is wrong in our country right now. Some people are listening to politics to make their choices. Some people are listening to the experts and the scientists to guide their decision making. This isn't red versus blue, this is politics vs science. Politics is winning, so we are losing as a country.
There are medical experts who are telling us that shuttering is not the best option. They say our immunity needs to build up for us best to deal with sooner. Those scientists never count to the left. That's why I want freedom of choice. You can choose to isolate. Or you can choose to go about your life
um, that is actally not what they are saying. Herd Immunity is a solution when there is a vaccine. Without one it can be to quote John Hopkins University “But the disastrous situation unfolding at San Quentin State Prison over the last two months has become the latest example of several cautionary tales that show how any effort to achieve herd immunity before a vaccine is available would come with enormous costs in terms of illness and death.”

I am not going to change your mind. However, know that the consensus opinion of the scienctiifc community is against you. Know that you putting your freedom of choice over science will harm other people. My choice to listen to the experts won't impact others negatively.
X2. Well said.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:04 am
by millworkguy
Just in case you missed it elsewhere, Syracuse, Florida state and pitt players considering mass opt out, as team plans to play

https://www.tsn.ca/report-syracuse-foot ... -1.1509213

https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... use-orange

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:27 pm
by millworkguy
TheNuts wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 am
Perfect example. The party that wants to shutter the country to save every life possible also wants abortion to be easily accessible.
If abortion is a sin, and sex is only for procreation, why dont people protest outside vasectomy clinics?

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:48 pm
by OhCruelestRanter
This whole thing is, like everything else these days, an example of them creating a problem, and then blaming that problem for the reason another problem can't be fixed. Observe:

Step 1: Shape society such that the number of people who live paycheck to paycheck is similar to that of a 3rd world country so that a select few have the opportunity to become truly exorbitantly wealthy.
Step 2: Pandemic occurs.
Step 3: Say we can't shut down, because these people need to work for a living, despite the fact that your regressive economic politics are the exact reason it's so hard to shut down.

Here's another one:
Step 1: Get in bed with the gun lobby and put an unprecedented number of guns in the streets.
Step 2: Unarmed citizens are murdered by police.
Step 3: Defend the police's right to murder civilians by pointing out how the civilian "may have had a gun" despite the fact that your regressive politics are what put so many guns on the streets and are what makes being a police officer so dangerous.

The selfish part is what's been going on for 40 years now- creating a society where our income inequality is comparable to that of a 3rd world country so that 600 people out of 330 million can be billionaires.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:26 pm
by kadun2
^ What country are you referring to? Who are them?
Your lies are similar to those who are trying to destroy America.

Anyone can be wealthy in America.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:42 pm
by M-Dub
azthecrow wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:26 pm ^ What country are you referring to? Who are them?
Your lies are similar to those who are trying to destroy America.

Anyone can be wealthy in America.
Jesus. I feel like I accidentally stumbled into a thread on my crazy uncle’s Facebook page...

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:25 am
by millworkguy
azthecrow wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:26 pm ^ What country are you referring to? Who are them?
Your lies are similar to those who are trying to destroy America.

Anyone can be wealthy in America.
Lol, lol

Sure anyone could become wealthy, but with some states having a minimum wage that allows employers to pay full time employees as little as $206 a week (before taxes) and keeping your own staff below the poverty line, is very much a 3rd world condition.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:41 am
by Ray Finkle
millworkguy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:25 am
azthecrow wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:26 pm ^ What country are you referring to? Who are them?
Your lies are similar to those who are trying to destroy America.

Anyone can be wealthy in America.
Lol, lol

Sure anyone could become wealthy, but with some states having a minimum wage that allows employers to pay full time employees as little as $206 a week (before taxes) and keeping your own staff below the poverty line, is very much a 3rd world condition.
Imagine if there were no minimum wage. It would be real bad.

Re: Why canceling sports seasons is the most selfish thing to do

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:24 am
by millworkguy
Ray Finkle wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:41 am
millworkguy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:25 am
azthecrow wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:26 pm ^ What country are you referring to? Who are them?
Your lies are similar to those who are trying to destroy America.

Anyone can be wealthy in America.
Lol, lol

Sure anyone could become wealthy, but with some states having a minimum wage that allows employers to pay full time employees as little as $206 a week (before taxes) and keeping your own staff below the poverty line, is very much a 3rd world condition.
Imagine if there were no minimum wage. It would be real bad.
Imagine a livable minimum wage, it would make life more affordable for tens of millions.