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Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:55 am
by FantasyFreak
Ross now has an out. Will be interesting to see if he uses it.

https://www.nfl.com/news/john-ross-leav ... r-covid-19

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:09 am
by abloom
FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:55 am Ross now has an out. Will be interesting to see if he uses it.

https://www.nfl.com/news/john-ross-leav ... r-covid-19
Again he can only opt out of they actually get hospitalized. For now he can be placed on the covid19 list.

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:36 pm
by FantasyFreak
I did not realize that Damien Williams opted out to take care of his mom, who has cancer. I respect that. He gave up a lot of money to care for his sick mother. He considers this time with her priceless, clearly.

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 am
by Pullo Vision
Jatavis Brown "retired". Curious if that's a work around for players who can't opt out and don't have someone in the hospital for Covid.

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:58 pm
by millworkguy
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 am Jatavis Brown "retired". Curious if that's a work around for players who can't opt out and don't have someone in the hospital for Covid.
How is that a work around? Anyone can retire, his contract tolls (if need be and he doesn't get any money. Why would you want someone in the locker room who really doesn't want to be there?

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:02 pm
by FantasyFreak
millworkguy wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:58 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 am Jatavis Brown "retired". Curious if that's a work around for players who can't opt out and don't have someone in the hospital for Covid.
How is that a work around? Anyone can retire, his contract tolls (if need be and he doesn't get any money. Why would you want someone in the locker room who really doesn't want to be there?
Key word you may have missed, he was asking a question.

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:14 pm
by Csl312
FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:36 pm I did not realize that Damien Williams opted out to take care of his mom, who has cancer. I respect that. He gave up a lot of money to care for his sick mother. He considers this time with her priceless, clearly.
Pretty admirable IMO. He must know his chances of staying relevant are minimal beyond this year after CEH was drafted. Hopefully he will still have a way to get reasonable time on the field next year.

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:30 pm
by millworkguy
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:02 pm
millworkguy wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:58 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 am Jatavis Brown "retired". Curious if that's a work around for players who can't opt out and don't have someone in the hospital for Covid.
How is that a work around? Anyone can retire, his contract tolls (if need be and he doesn't get any money. Why would you want someone in the locker room who really doesn't want to be there?
Key word you may have missed, he was asking a question.
No, I didn't miss the question, I was wondering why he felt it was a work around? Also, there are rhetorical questions, I wanted more from him.

Is the sun hot? Why do you think it wouldn't be?
Is the moon far?
I wonder, is retirement is another way for players not to play?

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Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:38 am
by Pullo Vision
millworkguy wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:58 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 am Jatavis Brown "retired". Curious if that's a work around for players who can't opt out and don't have someone in the hospital for Covid.
How is that a work around? Anyone can retire, his contract tolls (if need be and he doesn't get any money. Why would you want someone in the locker room who really doesn't want to be there?
If a player believes teammates or other members of the team aren't doing everything they can/should to avoid being infected, or believes that there's a potential or actual rise in Covid infections nationally, he may want to remove himself from the locker room and team, to reduce the risk to his health and his family's. But, there's no ready way to remove himself. With the window to opt out closed, that's a no go. By not showing up like Vic Beasley did recently, they'll incur fines. However, a player can "retire" to remove himself and there doesn't seem to be too many administrative obstacles to un-retire next year.

I'm wondering if there might be an increase in phantom "retirements" because of Covid.

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:51 am
by jjleurquin
Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:38 am
millworkguy wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:58 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 am Jatavis Brown "retired". Curious if that's a work around for players who can't opt out and don't have someone in the hospital for Covid.
How is that a work around? Anyone can retire, his contract tolls (if need be and he doesn't get any money. Why would you want someone in the locker room who really doesn't want to be there?
If a player believes teammates or other members of the team aren't doing everything they can/should to avoid being infected, or believes that there's a potential or actual rise in Covid infections nationally, he may want to remove himself from the locker room and team, to reduce the risk to his health and his family's. But, there's no ready way to remove himself. With the window to opt out closed, that's a no go. By not showing up like Vic Beasley did recently, they'll incur fines. However, a player can "retire" to remove himself and there doesn't seem to be too many administrative obstacles to un-retire next year.

I'm wondering if there might be an increase in phantom "retirements" because of Covid.
Yea I was thinking the same thing. I've seen a couple rookie o lineman retire and was just like what!?

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:39 am
by Patsfan86
To be fair there have been more and more shocking retirements of young players the last 5 years or so (Luck, Calvin Johnson, even some rookies) so i dont think its a good idea to blame it all on COVID. I get its on everyones brains and we cant escape it but you have to remember the evidence of early retirements happening before this as well and take that into account.

Re: List of players who have opted out for 2020 season

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:20 am
by jjleurquin
Patsfan86 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:39 am To be fair there have been more and more shocking retirements of young players the last 5 years or so (Luck, Calvin Johnson, even some rookies) so i dont think its a good idea to blame it all on COVID. I get its on everyones brains and we cant escape it but you have to remember the evidence of early retirements happening before this as well and take that into account.
I understand that but the guys you mentioned all got payed first. Take the guy from the Pats who got drafted in the 7th round Woodard. I don't think you enter the draft if you don't want to play or at least get payed.