Hey all.....I could use some help here. I know there is a commissioner specific forum but this is the forum I frequent so thought I’d ask for opinions here.
I took over as commissioner for a league where the previous commissioner went AWOL. While the league has an extensive constitution, there is no mention of rule changes.
A few days after our rookie draft completed, an owner requested we vote to drop DST and K. Several owners protested saying voting should take place prior to draft (I tend to agree). Both sides are pushing hard.
In general, when do you vote on rule changes?
Do you feel commissioner can rule unilaterally on when rule changes should occur?
Any thoughts on my specific predicament? I know consensus is DST and K are frowned upon, but I don’t think that’s pertinent to this discussion. My question is broader than just DST and K since this will set a new precedent.
Thanks in advance!
Commish question
Commish question
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
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Re: Commish question
My co-commissioner and I only put things to a vote if it drastically changes the league. In this case dropping DST or Kickers is a big change. I would put that to a vote but not until the 2021 draft. I would leave the format as is for this season now that your rookie draft has passed. You could also propose bringing in an IDP player or two to keep the defensive side in fantasy. Team DEFs in dynasty dont make much sense to me, but then again my league has them, but we are also moving away from that in the future.
Re: Commish question
Propose it for next year, with a majority vote. Add an extra starting position or two to compensate.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Tyrod
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Wicks, Flournoy, Boyd, Walker, Thrash, Washington, Whittington
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Gore, Watson
Andrews, Kmet, Bell
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Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
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Walker, J Cook, Miller, Spears, Rodriguez, Watson, Davis
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Baker, Washington, Cowing, Thrash, Flournoy
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Tyrod
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Wicks, Flournoy, Boyd, Walker, Thrash, Washington, Whittington
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Gore, Watson
Andrews, Kmet, Bell
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Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
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Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Spears, Rodriguez, Watson, Davis
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Baker, Washington, Cowing, Thrash, Flournoy
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker
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Re: Commish question
You can vote now, but even if it passes, the change shouldn't go into effect until 2021 at the earliest.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
Re: Commish question
This. But you aren't required to put everything to a vote that people bring up.
Come down to the commissioner forum next time - you'll get special attention, and the topic won't slip to the third page after a couple of days.
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Re: Commish question
Agree with thisWhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 10:00 am You can vote now, but even if it passes, the change shouldn't go into effect until 2021 at the earliest.
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Re: Commish question
You can't make changes like that unless it's the off season.
I make most changes without a league vote, if it's something I think hands down is just better and not that controversial.
However for something like this I think a league vote is in order. But in the off season.
I also don't take things to a league vote unless I already approved of the change.
I make most changes without a league vote, if it's something I think hands down is just better and not that controversial.
However for something like this I think a league vote is in order. But in the off season.
I also don't take things to a league vote unless I already approved of the change.
10 team dynasty began 2016
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def
2018 2nd
2019 2nd
2020 CHAMP
2021 2nd
2022 *co-champ...yuck
2023 2nd
QB: P Mahomes
RB: J Gibbs, J Taylor, T Etienne, B Robinson Jr, J Mixon, Z White, Z Charbonnet, K Miller, T Benson, J Wright, K Vidal
WR: J Jefferson, J Chase, J Waddle, DK Metcalf, T Dell, M Williams, M Nabers, J Burton, T Franklin
TE: K Pitts, G Kittle
K: Stream
Def: SF
2025 picks: my own 1 ,2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def
2018 2nd
2019 2nd
2020 CHAMP
2021 2nd
2022 *co-champ...yuck
2023 2nd
QB: P Mahomes
RB: J Gibbs, J Taylor, T Etienne, B Robinson Jr, J Mixon, Z White, Z Charbonnet, K Miller, T Benson, J Wright, K Vidal
WR: J Jefferson, J Chase, J Waddle, DK Metcalf, T Dell, M Williams, M Nabers, J Burton, T Franklin
TE: K Pitts, G Kittle
K: Stream
Def: SF
2025 picks: my own 1 ,2, 3, 4, 5, 6
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Re: Commish question
I would phase it in if it’s what the majority wants but not for this season. Kicker is useless, but some owners may be strongly against this move and hard to pivot fast if you have strong resistance. Maybe no kicker for 2021 and no def for 2022?
Re: Commish question
Will do. Seemed like there wasn't as much activity on commissioner forum but will definitely give it a try next time. Thanks!
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Commish question
In our league we have the commish as well as 2 to 3 other people the commish has selected to bounce stuff off of. the people he has chosen are guys from both ends of the spectrum to get an overall idea and balanced approach to any new changes.
with your question about rules:
I would push that change to next off season. I know this season hasn't started and guys probably didn't draft a kicker or DST so it really doesn't matter, but rule changes should happen before anything happens in the next league year. once the rookie draft starts or trading opens (if it closes) that year has started.
basically I would push it to next year, and I like DST and kickers (they actually determine the outcome sometimes, which means they matter. some guys don't like them cause they don't know how to how to predict em and it frustrates them...IMO.
best of luck
with your question about rules:
I would push that change to next off season. I know this season hasn't started and guys probably didn't draft a kicker or DST so it really doesn't matter, but rule changes should happen before anything happens in the next league year. once the rookie draft starts or trading opens (if it closes) that year has started.
basically I would push it to next year, and I like DST and kickers (they actually determine the outcome sometimes, which means they matter. some guys don't like them cause they don't know how to how to predict em and it frustrates them...IMO.
best of luck
12 team PPR
QB- Lamar, Burrow, Richardson
WR- K. Allen, Garrett Wilson, Pickens, OBJ, DeVonta Smith, Wan'dale, Tillman
RB- McCaffrey, Chubb, Sanders, Dobbins, Brian Robinson, Roschon, Ford, Rodriguez
TE- Henry, Knox, Ferguson, Laporta, Darnell washington
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DST- Steelers, eagles
2024 picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th
1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX (WR/RB/TE), K, DST -------1 pt. - PPR
QB- Lamar, Burrow, Richardson
WR- K. Allen, Garrett Wilson, Pickens, OBJ, DeVonta Smith, Wan'dale, Tillman
RB- McCaffrey, Chubb, Sanders, Dobbins, Brian Robinson, Roschon, Ford, Rodriguez
TE- Henry, Knox, Ferguson, Laporta, Darnell washington
K- Butker
DST- Steelers, eagles
2024 picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th
1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX (WR/RB/TE), K, DST -------1 pt. - PPR
Re: Commish question
Addendum: I would drop the team defense and go to IDP. Time to man up!
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QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex
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QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14
Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex
Phoenix Park Suns
QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14
Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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Re: Commish question
Vote for after the coming season, I’ll guess some people traded defenses this past off season
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QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
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Re: Commish question
This is not a good idea. Adding an extra starting position or two completely alters the league makeup. Start up drafts and trades are all made with specific starting requirements in mind. As a commish myself, I would not allow a change like this, and would leave a league that made a severe alteration like this. It would severely hurt teams that made 2 for 1 type deals to upgrade at a starting position, for instance. It's too big an alteration to the balance of the league.
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