2021 QB thread

[ravn88]

Between the 2 top names Lawrence and Fields.

Who is the best in your opinion?
Is there a chance Fields will be 1.01 as of what we know now.

What players does these two play like ?

[bjd5211]

Prefer Lawrence, but Fields would be considered the #1 QB prospect almost any other year.

[ravn88]

Prefer Lawrence, but Fields would be considered the #1 QB prospect almost any other year.

But you would have a tier between them If you had to rank them now ?

[bjd5211]

Prefer Lawrence, but Fields would be considered the #1 QB prospect almost any other year.

But you would have a tier between them If you had to rank them now ?

I think Lawrence is the clear #1, so ya I guess they would be in different tiers, but Fields is a phenomenal prospect in his own right. I think it's highly unlikely, but not impossible that Fields surpasses Lawrence.

On top of those two, Trey Lance from North Dakota State would probably be the top QB most years too. 2021 is looking like a QB class that could rival '83 and '04 for the best class ever.

[FantasyFreak]

There is already talk Fields could go ahead of Lawrence, so not that far out there. For Fantasy, Fields could easily be the better pick due to his higher rushing upside.

[FantasyFreak]

Prefer Lawrence, but Fields would be considered the #1 QB prospect almost any other year.

But you would have a tier between them If you had to rank them now ?

I think Lawrence is the clear #1, so ya I guess they would be in different tiers, but Fields is a phenomenal prospect in his own right. I think it's highly unlikely, but not impossible that Fields surpasses Lawrence.

On top of those two, Trey Lance from North Dakota State would probably be the top QB most years too. 2021 is looking like a QB class that could rival '83 and '04 for the best class ever.

Who are the QB's beyond the top 2, and then Lance, who is a tier below, to make it rival '83? Also, Lance is a redshirt sophomore this year, so not sure he declares.

[bjd5211]

There is already talk Fields could go ahead of Lawrence, so not that far out there. For Fantasy, Fields could easily be the better pick due to his higher rushing upside.

Lawrence: 103/563/9
Fields: 147/454/10

Rushing stats this past year. Pretty sure Lawrence showed his rushing upside vs Ohio State with that 70 yard TD run.

[CGW]

Lawrence is a better prospect and would be the 1.01 today. He's been projected and recruited his whole football career as the top pick. He is the best QB prospect I've seen since Luck in 2012. Unless fields pulls a Burrow AND Lawrence regresses, I just don't see them flipping for the top pick.

Both are great prospects and I hope we get a 2021 season to see them improve.

[FantasyFreak]

There is already talk Fields could go ahead of Lawrence, so not that far out there. For Fantasy, Fields could easily be the better pick due to his higher rushing upside.

Lawrence: 103/563/9
Fields: 147/454/10

Rushing stats this past year. Pretty sure Lawrence showed his rushing upside vs Ohio State with that 70 yard TD run.

Yeah, I still think Fields will be the better rusher, especially the way he will most likely be used in the NFL. I expect him to be used as much more of a dual threat in offensive game planning at the next level. I'd pick Lawrence over him, but I could see the argument for Fields in Fantasy.

[ravn88]

If we forget how Mahomes has played for Kansas, and only look at this draft profil. What is the diffrence between him and Lawrence ?

Mahomes arm talent is better, but besides that arent they pretty much alike ?
Or am i way off ?

[FantasyFreak]

If we forget how Mahomes has played for Kansas, and only look at this draft profil. What is the diffrence between him and Lawrence ?

Mahomes arm talent is better, but besides that arent they pretty much alike ?
Or am i way off ?

Lawrence had an incredible freshman year. While breakout age isn't really a metric for QB's, it was really impressive how good he was at an early age. He followed it up with a sophomore year that was a bit up and down, but overall still really impressive for a sophomore. He's big, fairly mobile, and has a rocket arm. Mahomes had big sophomore and junior years, but what sets them apart right now, apart from size, is the freshman season IMO. Obviously it's improbable that Lawrence becomes the level of NFL player Mahomes is, but strictly talking as prospects, not many, if any had that type of freshman year that Trevor did, so the ceiling/floor combo appears pretty high for him. With Mahomes there were also questions about the system he ran, and level of competition, as well as his cavalier tendencies, I believe.

[Cameron Giles]

Lawrence is a better prospect and would be the 1.01 today. He's been projected and recruited his whole football career as the top pick. He is the best QB prospect I've seen since Luck in 2012. Unless fields pulls a Burrow AND Lawrence regresses, I just don't see them flipping for the top pick.

Both are great prospects and I hope we get a 2021 season to see them improve.

Yep that's important. Great prospects stand out early. Lawrence was the top prospect in his class, broke the Georgia state record for passing yards and passing TDs (Watson was the former record holder), was pegged as the QB1 as a senior in high school, won a national championship as a freshman in college...

I honestly don't think he has anything to prove. Sure, he struggled some last year, but what young QB doesn't? He has damn near everything you could want from that position and no character/intangible concerns.

[bjd5211]

He "struggled" last year, yet still ended up as PFF's highest rated college QB not named Joe Burrow. He's just a victim of his own success and the expectations coming out of his Freshman year. If he had been a backup his entire Freshman year and last year was his first year as a starter it would have been considered a massive success.

[FantasyFreak]

Lawrence is a better prospect and would be the 1.01 today. He's been projected and recruited his whole football career as the top pick. He is the best QB prospect I've seen since Luck in 2012. Unless fields pulls a Burrow AND Lawrence regresses, I just don't see them flipping for the top pick.

Both are great prospects and I hope we get a 2021 season to see them improve.

Yep that's important. Great prospects stand out early. Lawrence was the top prospect in his class, broke the Georgia state record for passing yards and passing TDs (Watson was the former record holder), was pegged as the QB1 as a senior in high school, won a national championship as a freshman in college...

I honestly don't think he has anything to prove. Sure, he struggled some last year, but what young QB doesn't? He has damn near everything you could want from that position and no character/intangible concerns.

For sure. As a prospect, he is elite. My concern for him becoming an elite NFL player, is how he handles pressure, which isn't something I believe is teachable, and I don't believe he has elite accuracy as a prospect, which also isn't very teachable, unless there are obvious mechanical flaws. I think he's going to be a top ten QB in the NFL, I am just not sure he breaks into top 3 type status, but he is damn near bust proof. I would definitely take him over Fields.

[Mike from Canada]

This is a timely thread I think for those in 1 QB leagues who are considering taking Burrow late in round 1. Given how deep the 2020 WR class is would it make more sense to not reach on Burrow and just wait for the 2021 QB class?