Clyde Edwards-Helaire is your new 1.01

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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby Farley » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:58 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:54 pm
OhCruelestRanter wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:51 pm I had CEH 5th pre-draft and I think you have to consider him at the 1.01 unless Taylor goes to Indy 2 picks later, or something comparable.

CEH would be an outlier if he’s successful, but Andy Reid has already coached two of the biggest RB outliers in Hunt and Westbrook. He’s going to catch passes and he’s not going to have a difficult time getting to the second level. This is Michael Thomas getting drafted by NO- sometimes you just need to adjust to new data.
For sure. I am definitely moving him up, but I need to see where the other backs go before anointing CEH the top pick in the entire draft.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby PR0v3 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 pm

JFever wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:47 pm
PR0v3 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:16 pm Loving this as a 1.02 holder. I’ll be taking CEH there if 1.01 passes, or I’ll have my pick of the rest.
I’m in same boat. Own the 1.02 & 1.04. I’m going to assume that the owner of the 1.01 takes CEH as he also owns D.Williams. So it seems I might be taking two of Dobbins, Swift, or Taylor. Nice!!! I did have my eye on CEH assuming I’d take him at 1.02 but, he’ll be gone now.
Nice! I got the 1.05, too, and it looks like I’ll either be able to pick up another RB or whatever WR I want. Good luck!
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:48 pm Taking him at 1.01 is poor value. Simply doesn't fit the mold of the top pick in a loaded class.
That kind of thinking is what landed most 1.1 owners with Fournette instead of CMC.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby Zacsby » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 pm

Whatever your knock against him is, it doesn't matter anymore. He is going to have soooo much space to work. Tons of space + tons of burst = chunk plays. Throw in the PPR and Andy Reid factor and I just don't see what's not to love here. We're looking at one of those rare Kamara like situations where there should be not only great efficiency, but sustainable efficiency. And I think he has more of a 3 down skill set than people give him credit for anyway.

We still have landing spots to see, but I can't imagine one that would be undisputably better than this one. It's funny cause almost everyone has been tooting the "landing spots will be everything" horn for a while and now here we are. Except now everyone has biases. Lol
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm

What's his work load going to be? Hearing Matt Waldman say he thinks it will be a 3 headed committee. I don't think he's going to get workhorse touches, but the landing spot is very good, for sure.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby Ice » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm

CEH was my 3rd rated back in the class. I own the 1.1 and 1.3. in a team I just took over and am rebuilding. CEH is clearly in consideration for 1.1. Reid makes stars out of players with his skill sets.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby PR0v3 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:09 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm What's his work load going to be? Hearing Matt Waldman say he thinks it will be a 3 headed committee. I don't think he's going to get workhorse touches, but the landing spot is very good, for sure.
Waldman lol. Andy Reid, who has as good of an RB record as anyone, just took an RB considerably higher in the draft than he ever has. CEH is gonna bellcow, he wasn’t picked as a first rounder to be a third down receiving back.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby StripesOfKC » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:09 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm What's his work load going to be? Hearing Matt Waldman say he thinks it will be a 3 headed committee. I don't think he's going to get workhorse touches, but the landing spot is very good, for sure.
Can’t see a 1st Round pick sharing touches with Darwin Thompson...like at all.
Damien will hang around though if CEH can’t improve pass protection

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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:18 pm

Zacsby wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 pm Whatever your knock against him is, it doesn't matter anymore. He is going to have soooo much space to work. Tons of space + tons of burst = chunk plays. Throw in the PPR and Andy Reid factor and I just don't see what's not to love here. We're looking at one of those rare Kamara like situations where there should be not only great efficiency, but sustainable efficiency. And I think he has more of a 3 down skill set than people give him credit for anyway.

We still have landing spots to see, but I can't imagine one that would be undisputably better than this one. It's funny cause almost everyone has been tooting the "landing spots will be everything" horn for a while and now here we are. Except now everyone has biases. Lol
I think because most were referring to landing spots for JT/Swift/Dobbins. If Akers or CEH went KC a lot of people said it would just make it all a bit more confusing

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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:19 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:09 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:07 pm What's his work load going to be? Hearing Matt Waldman say he thinks it will be a 3 headed committee. I don't think he's going to get workhorse touches, but the landing spot is very good, for sure.
Can’t see a 1st Round pick sharing touches with Darwin Thompson...like at all.
Damien will hang around though if CEH can’t improve pass protection
I think DeAndre Washington is better than Darwin. I don't think Darwin makes that roster.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:22 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:18 pm
Zacsby wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 pm Whatever your knock against him is, it doesn't matter anymore. He is going to have soooo much space to work. Tons of space + tons of burst = chunk plays. Throw in the PPR and Andy Reid factor and I just don't see what's not to love here. We're looking at one of those rare Kamara like situations where there should be not only great efficiency, but sustainable efficiency. And I think he has more of a 3 down skill set than people give him credit for anyway.

We still have landing spots to see, but I can't imagine one that would be undisputably better than this one. It's funny cause almost everyone has been tooting the "landing spots will be everything" horn for a while and now here we are. Except now everyone has biases. Lol
I think because most were referring to landing spots for JT/Swift/Dobbins. If Akers or CEH went KC a lot of people said it would just make it all a bit more confusing
For sure. If you had CEH as your 5th ranked back, you don't just immediately move him to 1, IMO.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby Mike11 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:24 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:35 pm
Mike11 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:32 pm This is incredibly tough for me. My eyes made me have Swift, Taylor then CEH.

I can’t deny what I just saw. I still like Swift so much but how is he going to score more than CEH. It’s the highest Andy Reid has ever taken a RB and it’s by a wide margin.
We don't even know where the other backs will land yet.
I haven’t seen them but where would anyone go that you put them back over the first RB taken when that RB went to the best team landing spot, was the earliest that coach ever took a RB AND had his pick of any rb and chose CEH. He was my 3rd back.

Swift to Buccs or Phins is the most realistic. Maybe If the Ravens push back up and get Swift then I flip on this stance. Like Taylor too but CEH might be able to catch 70+ balls his rookie year. In .5 ppr Taylor would need a lot more rushing yards to cover that ground.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm

Still love Todd's draft but CEH looks like a much better value right now for sure

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Re: CEH is your new 1.01

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:28 pm

Mike11 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:24 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:35 pm
Mike11 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:32 pm This is incredibly tough for me. My eyes made me have Swift, Taylor then CEH.

I can’t deny what I just saw. I still like Swift so much but how is he going to score more than CEH. It’s the highest Andy Reid has ever taken a RB and it’s by a wide margin.
We don't even know where the other backs will land yet.
I haven’t seen them but where would anyone go that you put them back over the first RB taken when that RB went to the best team landing spot, was the earliest that coach ever took a RB AND had his pick of any rb and chose CEH. He was my 3rd back.

Swift to Buccs or Phins is the most realistic. Maybe If the Ravens push back up and get Swift then I flip on this stance. Like Taylor too but CEH might be able to catch 70+ balls his rookie year. In .5 ppr Taylor would need a lot more rushing yards to cover that ground.
I am not sold on him being on the field enough for that. His pass blocking sucks, I think it's a committee, as Waldman suggested.
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