Christian McCaffrey Thread: CMC Extension

[bobmcgff52]

This whole post is stupid. He obviously is going get a a chance to show what he can do on the field. White, Black, or Orange, if you can help a team win you will be playing.

[gi15]

Peak and rightly used woodhead is a top5 fantasy PPR RB, so if thats his sealing its pretty freaking awesome. Even if he's a rich man theo riddick he'd be top10. And he just need to get used right. Dont need a great oline or QB. So no need to fear a Gurley situation. Can you say the same for fournette?

McCaffrey is the safest prospect in this year's draft.

[Cameron Giles]

Peak and rightly used woodhead is a top5 fantasy PPR RB, so if thats his sealing its pretty freaking awesome. Even if he's a rich man theo riddick he'd be top10. And he just need to get used right. Dont need a great oline or QB. So no need to fear a Gurley situation. Can you say the same for fournette?

McCaffrey is the safest prospect in this year's draft.

The problem with those type of players is that their production is driven by gameflow. Meanwhile, players like Gurley and Fournette ARE the gameplan.

Riddick has 3 games with 50 or more receiving yards. 7 games below.
Riddick has 2 games with 50 or more rushing yards. 8 games below.

Sure you can start them in PPR, but the floor isn't really as stable as you think.

[gi15]

Peak and rightly used woodhead is a top5 fantasy PPR RB, so if thats his sealing its pretty freaking awesome. Even if he's a rich man theo riddick he'd be top10. And he just need to get used right. Dont need a great oline or QB. So no need to fear a Gurley situation. Can you say the same for fournette?

McCaffrey is the safest prospect in this year's draft.

The problem with those type of players is that their production is driven by gameflow. Meanwhile, players like Gurley and Fournette ARE the gameplan.

Riddick has 3 games with 50 or more receiving yards. 7 games below.
Riddick has 2 games with 50 or more rushing yards. 8 games below.

Sure you can start them in PPR, but the floor isn't really as stable as you think.

I expect him to be much better than Riddick and Woodhead though

[ninotoreS]

Danny Woodhead had 30 BMI coming out of college (he was a shade less than 200lbs at 5'8" then, approximately same as now), and rushed 1,135 times for 7,962 yards, including 2700 in one season. That's just rushing yards.

McCaffrey's BMI is currently around 26. Victor Cruz presently has more mass than Christian McCaffrey.

Don't equate McCaffrey to Woodhead, please. Woodhead, like Sproles, probably could've been just fine as a 20-carries-a-game RB in the NFL, but teams just didn't want to give either of them the chance, for reasons that weren't particularly scientific.

[gi15]

Danny Woodhead had 31 BMI coming out of college (he was 200lbs at 5'8" then, same as now), and rushed 1,135 times for 7,962 yards, including 2700 in one season. That's just rushing yards.

McCaffrey's BMI is currently around 26. Victor Cruz presently has more mass than Christian McCaffrey.

Don't equate McCaffrey to Woodhead, please. Woodhead, like Sproles, probably could've been just fine as a 20-carries-a-game RB in the NFL, but teams just didn't want to give either of them the chance, for reasons that weren't particularly scientific.

I cant wait to see officials measurements, I don't believe McCaffrey is really 6'0, wondering what weight he'll be at the combine.

[ninotoreS]

Well, if he proves to be heavier I'll upgrade my prospects for him in the pros. I think he's great, as I've said, but right now he looks like more of a Randall Cobb or something than a 3-down pro RB.

[lukkynumber13]

Well, if he proves to be heavier I'll upgrade my prospects for him in the pros. I think he's great, as I've said, but right now he looks like more of a Randall Cobb or something than a 3-down pro RB.

I don't see that at all. He's way quicker and shifter. Dude has moves in the open field like Reggie Bush

[ninotoreS]

I'm only comparing him to Cobb in the sense that they're both tweeners physically coming out of college. No other aspect.

Bush is as logical as it gets for a comparison too, but still doesn't quite fit. There isn't really an accurate pro parallel for McCaffrey right now relative to his height/weight/skillset + college production. He's built and moves like a slot-receiver -- Bush was the same at USC, btw -- but he carried 337 times last year. Even Bush didn't come close to that at USC. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Either McCaffrey's production at Stanford was a Wisconsin-esque RB-stats-factory red herring, or he's something unprecedented. Realism suggests the former is more likely.

[bruiser]

But he'll be a nice bump in some team's return game while catching a couple passes on third down. I'd expect nothing from him in year one. Maybe a flash in the pass game.

[Friction]

I am sure he will slip in some rookie drafts to late first due to some of these concerns and I will jump on it. Ppr he will be fine and you never know how good he becomes. 1.05 it depends on how my team looks and obviously his landing spot.

[lukkynumber13]

But he'll be a nice bump in some team's return game while catching a couple passes on third down. I'd expect nothing from him in year one. Maybe a flash in the pass game.

How do you figure that? Do you project him as a much later pick than where he's being mocked? Or do you see him converting to WR?

If he stays at RB, and gets drafted in the first 50 picks, IDK how he doesn't get pretty solid usage in his rookie year. Derrick Henry would be the closest thing to what you're saying IMO, and even he has gotten decent work considering he's playing behind one of the leading rushers this year

[TheSpidersFromMars]

I think he'll be somewhere in between Jeremy Langford, Theo Riddick, Charcandrick West, Andre Ellington, Mike Gillislee, and Charles Sims (I know he's bigger, but he doesnt run like it).

[ninotoreS]

Best-case-wildly-optimistic scenario, McCaffrey is a lighter version of OJ Simpson with much better receiving ability. I know y'all probably think it's goofy to go back that far for a comparable, but Simpson's rushing style and McCaffrey's really are kind of similar, and they were both leaner and lighter for their height than you'd like to see for a feature-back, built more like WRs than RBs, but still somehow managed monster workload seasons.

More likely, of course he's, uh, I dunno, I guess considering all factors Reggie Bush as a comparable does indeed work as well as any other I can think of.

[bruiser]

But he'll be a nice bump in some team's return game while catching a couple passes on third down. I'd expect nothing from him in year one. Maybe a flash in the pass game.

How do you figure that? Do you project him as a much later pick than where he's being mocked? Or do you see him converting to WR?

If he stays at RB, and gets drafted in the first 50 picks, IDK how he doesn't get pretty solid usage in his rookie year. Derrick Henry would be the closest thing to what you're saying IMO, and even he has gotten decent work considering he's playing behind one of the leading rushers this year

I really don't back up this assessment with any real numbers/evidence. I watched a few of his runs, and I just generalize/compartmentalize what I see. It could be way off base, but I don't study RBs as I am zero-RB approach to building my rosters because my rosters are IDP.

I make generalizations about incoming RBs and I place more emphasis on their situation they get drafted to. It's safe to assume that today's NFL teams are stocking up on three or four committee backs; Dallas is an aberration. McCaffrey's return skills are impossible to ignore, so I do project him to be involved right away - a la David Johnson's rookie season. Reggie Bush was also mentioned.... not a bad comp, imo.