Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:02 pm

The guy is having an absolute monster of a season. 122/1625/14 through this week. The addition of Stafford has brought him back to his 2019 form and then some. Have a feeling he will be on quite a few Championship rosters this year.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:51 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:02 pm The guy is having an absolute monster of a season. 122/1625/14 through this week. The addition of Stafford has brought him back to his 2019 form and then some. Have a feeling he will be on quite a few Championship rosters this year.
Nice to see a guy reach his potential. Goff was suffocating him last year.

I'd expect him to slow down a little next year, but still be a very good WR.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:42 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:02 pm The guy is having an absolute monster of a season. 122/1625/14 through this week. The addition of Stafford has brought him back to his 2019 form and then some.
He's on pace to break the WR fantasy record

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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Kmani6 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:53 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:42 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:02 pm The guy is having an absolute monster of a season. 122/1625/14 through this week. The addition of Stafford has brought him back to his 2019 form and then some.
He's on pace to break the WR fantasy record
In 17 games not 16.
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QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:30 am

Kmani6 wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:53 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:42 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:02 pm The guy is having an absolute monster of a season. 122/1625/14 through this week. The addition of Stafford has brought him back to his 2019 form and then some.
He's on pace to break the WR fantasy record
In 17 games not 16.
Glad you mentioned that. Looks like Jerry's '95 season was the best for a WR. 414 PPR points. 25.875 ppg

Kupp has 370 points in 14 weeks. That's 26.4 ppg.

Maybe he will break it in 16 games, maybe he won't. Who cares? I'm not going to be the guy running around putting asterisks next to every new record but someone's gotta do it I guess

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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby DinoDynasty » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:18 pm

Its great going back to seeing how many threads were linked to this.

Love looking back on all the flack I caught for starting this one...

Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1
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Keep Kupp and Carry on... I'll ride him until the wheels fall off, which I think he continues to see a very similar career horizon as Jordy
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WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:38 pm

Kmani6 wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:53 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:42 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:02 pm The guy is having an absolute monster of a season. 122/1625/14 through this week. The addition of Stafford has brought him back to his 2019 form and then some.
He's on pace to break the WR fantasy record
In 17 games not 16.
He also has a real shot at MT's receptions record due to this.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:43 am

I'll be curious about Kupp trades in the coming months. Production/performance aside, he was an old rookie and he's beginning to hit/near some age milestones.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:28 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:43 am I'll be curious about Kupp trades in the coming months. Production/performance aside, he was an old rookie and he's beginning to hit/near some age milestones.
Last adp I saw had him at wr6 or 7 ahead of ajb and about even with dk as a late 2nd startup(sf)

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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:34 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:28 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:43 am I'll be curious about Kupp trades in the coming months. Production/performance aside, he was an old rookie and he's beginning to hit/near some age milestones.
Last adp I saw had him at wr6 or 7 ahead of ajb and about even with dk as a late 2nd startup(sf)
That might be even doses of AJB being injured and Kupp doing well. In other words, recency bias.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:39 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:34 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:28 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:43 am I'll be curious about Kupp trades in the coming months. Production/performance aside, he was an old rookie and he's beginning to hit/near some age milestones.
Last adp I saw had him at wr6 or 7 ahead of ajb and about even with dk as a late 2nd startup(sf)
That might be even doses of AJB being injured and Kupp doing well. In other words, recency bias.
IF it's all mock drafts, those are borderline pointless IMO. Or at least misleading. There's nothing at stake in a mock draft. People don't have their money on the line or have to manage their team that they draft. Not sure too many people doing startups in the FF playoffs. I can see people drafting Kupp early if they are the type of team that wants to win year 1. He should have a few years of very good production left in that situation, and DK's QB situation is very murky next year.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:09 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:39 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:34 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:28 am
Last adp I saw had him at wr6 or 7 ahead of ajb and about even with dk as a late 2nd startup(sf)
That might be even doses of AJB being injured and Kupp doing well. In other words, recency bias.
IF it's all mock drafts, those are borderline pointless IMO. Or at least misleading. There's nothing at stake in a mock draft. People don't have their money on the line or have to manage their team that they draft. Not sure too many people doing startups in the FF playoffs. I can see people drafting Kupp early if they are the type of team that wants to win year 1. He should have a few years of very good production left in that situation, and DK's QB situation is very murky next year.
Agreed that mocks would have limited value. I took "startup(sf)" to mean the drafters were in it for the long haul. Also agree that Metcalf has future questions but Kupp going over AJB looks egregious.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:11 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:09 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:39 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:34 am
That might be even doses of AJB being injured and Kupp doing well. In other words, recency bias.
IF it's all mock drafts, those are borderline pointless IMO. Or at least misleading. There's nothing at stake in a mock draft. People don't have their money on the line or have to manage their team that they draft. Not sure too many people doing startups in the FF playoffs. I can see people drafting Kupp early if they are the type of team that wants to win year 1. He should have a few years of very good production left in that situation, and DK's QB situation is very murky next year.
Agreed that mocks would have limited value. I took "startup(sf)" to mean the drafters were in it for the long haul. Also agree that Metcalf has future questions but Kupp going over AJB looks egregious.
Yeah sorry I use startup to indicate second round of all players to avoid confusion with rookie picks. To me that's an overvalue imo. And ajb was well undervalue(late 3rd) but juet my report on what I saw

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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:56 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:09 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:39 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:34 am
That might be even doses of AJB being injured and Kupp doing well. In other words, recency bias.
IF it's all mock drafts, those are borderline pointless IMO. Or at least misleading. There's nothing at stake in a mock draft. People don't have their money on the line or have to manage their team that they draft. Not sure too many people doing startups in the FF playoffs. I can see people drafting Kupp early if they are the type of team that wants to win year 1. He should have a few years of very good production left in that situation, and DK's QB situation is very murky next year.
Agreed that mocks would have limited value. I took "startup(sf)" to mean the drafters were in it for the long haul. Also agree that Metcalf has future questions but Kupp going over AJB looks egregious.
AJB I love, but I actually moved off him in some leagues. He's constantly banged up, has what could be the beginnings of chronic knee issues, to. Tore both meniscus I believe it was a year ago, and partially tore it again this year early in the off season. Taking management days off for it. I think he's a fantastic talent, but may be a Dez like career arc.
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby MFundercover » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:04 pm

Hard to see him going away anytime soon either. Kupp has always been good and is finally tied to a QB with a history of supporting fantasy WRs. I'd consider him a top dynasty asset imo.


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