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Re: The Most Over-Rated 2020 Rookie RB Is... Jonathan Taylor

Postby Ice » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:48 pm

Wisconsin had a great O Line last year. They seem to be a factory for Lineman.

Pretty good PFF article

https://www.pff.com/news/college-footba ... situations

On a side note; Anyone know the last Pro Bowl RB with 900 plus carries in college?
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Re: The Most Over-Rated 2020 Rookie RB Is... Jonathan Taylor

Postby Bronco Billy » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:16 pm

djeternal2 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:42 pm

Didn't you hear? He has no skills as a RB and has 900+ carries so his legs may fall off any minute now. I've taken him completely off my boards.
Geez, that would suck.

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Re: The Most Over-Rated 2020 Rookie RB Is... Jonathan Taylor

Postby Sriracha » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:21 pm

Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:48 pm
Wisconsin had a great O Line last year. They seem to be a factory for Lineman.

Pretty good PFF article

https://www.pff.com/news/college-footba ... situations

On a side note; Anyone know the last Pro Bowl RB with 900 plus carries in college?
Wisconsin #9 on that list

OSU #4
Georgia #2

Side note: Ron Dayne (1220 attempts), Tony Dorsett (1163), Cedric Benson (1112), Ricky Williams (1011), Herschel Walker (994), Deangello Williams (969), Ladanian Tomlinson (943) Ray Rice (910)


People want to make his 900+ carries without missing a game a negative? The Taylor hate is comical :lol:

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Re: The Most Over-Rated 2020 Rookie RB Is... Jonathan Taylor

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:30 pm

In order to make it to 900 carries you need to be good enough as a freshman to get ~300 carries, and it's pretty rare for guys to get that big a workload as a freshman over the upperclassmen. Most players who make it to 900+ career carries do it over the span of 4 years, which means they aren't great RB talents because the really good ones leave after 3 years the majority of the time.

900 carries in 3 years averaging over 2,000 yards per year in the Big-10, without missing even a practice during that time, should in no way be considered a negative. His draft stock will probably wrongly take a hit because of it, and I expect he will probably be the 2nd and maybe 3rd RB drafted, but once he gets on the field he'll show why he should have been the first RB taken. I'll be taking 1st barring some massive shifts due to landing spots.

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Re: The Most Over-Rated 2020 Rookie RB Is... Jonathan Taylor

Postby Ice » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:43 pm

IZigUZag wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:21 pm
Ice wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:48 pm
Wisconsin had a great O Line last year. They seem to be a factory for Lineman.

Pretty good PFF article

https://www.pff.com/news/college-footba ... situations

On a side note; Anyone know the last Pro Bowl RB with 900 plus carries in college?
Wisconsin #9 on that list

OSU #4
Georgia #2

Side note: Ron Dayne (1220 attempts), Tony Dorsett (1163), Cedric Benson (1112), Ricky Williams (1011), Herschel Walker (994), Deangello Williams (969), Ladanian Tomlinson (943) Ray Rice (910)


People want to make his 900+ carries without missing a game a negative? The Taylor hate is comical :lol:
Ray Rice is the answer. Rare these days.

If Taylor is that good he will certainly be worthy of 1.1
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Re: The Most Over-Rated 2020 Rookie RB Is... Jonathan Taylor

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:55 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:30 pm
In order to make it to 900 carries you need to be good enough as a freshman to get ~300 carries, and it's pretty rare for guys to get that big a workload as a freshman over the upperclassmen. Most players who make it to 900+ career carries do it over the span of 4 years, which means they aren't great RB talents because the really good ones leave after 3 years the majority of the time.

900 carries in 3 years averaging over 2,000 yards per year in the Big-10, without missing even a practice during that time, should in no way be considered a negative. His draft stock will probably wrongly take a hit because of it, and I expect he will probably be the 2nd and maybe 3rd RB drafted, but once he gets on the field he'll show why he should have been the first RB taken. I'll be taking 1st barring some massive shifts due to landing spots.
This is a damn near perfect post. That’s how you address why a stated point is wrong and then explain the counter-point. Bravo, dude.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:52 pm

Bump
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Dillon, Gaskin, Mostert, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Ryan, Minshew, Mariota, Trub
RB: Saquon, Dobbins, Jacobs, Hunt, Penny, Snell
WR: AJB, DJM, Chark, C. Davis, C. Samuel, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, Mooney, G. Davis, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: Andrews, Henry, Irv, Gesicki, Tonyan
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:53 pm

Behind that OL, Taylor is the 1.01 based on the volume he is going to get will be greater than CEH. Amazing spot. Easily top RB in this draft
12 team PPR, 1QB, No negative points, all TDs 6
QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham, Hurts, Winston
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Higgins, S Miller, Proche
TE: Engram, Hockenson, Arnold, Trautman
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
Picks: 2021 1, 2021 2, 2021 3, 2022 1, 2022 2, 2022 3

12 team PPR 1QB
QB: Brady, Darnold, Bridgewater, Lock (TS), Stidham (TS)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Edmonds, Taylor, Dobbins (TS)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, G. Tate, Guyton, P. Williams (TS), JJAW (TS), Isabella (TS), S. Miller (TS), Higgins (TS)
TE: Jarwin, I Smith, Arnold, Trautman (TS)
K: Succop
DEF: Streaming
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:53 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:52 pm
Bump
Had a feeling. LOL. Great debate. Both were are in perfect spots, so go with who you liked more pre draft.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Zacsby » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:54 pm

Is JT following a pulling Quenton Nelson good enough for you DLFMike?! :lol:
12 Tm SF PPR - QB, RB (2), WR (2), TE, FLX (2) SF
QB - Lamar, Brees, Daniel Jones, Taysom, Stidham
RB - CMC, AJ, Drake, Robinson, Cohen, AP
WR - Golladay, Boyd, Landry, Sanders, Mecole
TE - Kelce, Hurst, Rudolph, Oliver

12 Tm SF, Tiered PPR (.5RB, 1WR, 1.5TE) Start 9
QB - Watson, Daniel Jones, Tannehill, Stidham
RB - Kamara, Carson, Michel, Scott, Penny
WR - Nuk, Evans, Ridley, M-Will, P-Will, Washington
TE - Kittle, Rudolph, Reed

24 Tm 2 Copy PPR - QB, RB (2), WR (2), TE, FLX (3)
QB - Stafford, Jimmy G, Cousins
RB - CEH, Taylor, Hunt, Singletary, Moss, Breida, Gibson, Darwin
WR - Godwin, Golladay, AJB, M-Will, Ruggs, Higgins, Duvernay
TE - Andrews, Hurst, Herndon
21 Picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:55 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:53 pm
Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:52 pm
Bump
Had a feeling. LOL. Great debate. Both were are in perfect spots, so go with who you liked more pre draft.
Had to :D

Might not have IMMEDIATE impact but he was my top RB in this class. Just needed a good spot. That OL is going to pave the way like WIS did. I just wonder who the person ahead of me will take...
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Dillon, Gaskin, Mostert, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Ryan, Minshew, Mariota, Trub
RB: Saquon, Dobbins, Jacobs, Hunt, Penny, Snell
WR: AJB, DJM, Chark, C. Davis, C. Samuel, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, Mooney, G. Davis, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: Andrews, Henry, Irv, Gesicki, Tonyan
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby CGW » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:58 pm

That should help his case tremendously.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Cousins, Trubisky, Flacco, Haskins
RB | Taylor, Elliott, Akers, Wilkins, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Diontae, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee, R Higgins
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, D. Johnson, Aiyuk, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Perriman
TE | Andrews, Henry, Sample, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Glennon, Stidham
RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
WR | Evans, Ridley, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:08 pm

It's over, Taylor wins.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby CGW » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:09 pm

Taylor will likely be able to fall forward for 1k yards. Hope they give him a chance to be a receiver a bit more than Mack. They still have Hines though, so who knows.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Cousins, Trubisky, Flacco, Haskins
RB | Taylor, Elliott, Akers, Wilkins, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Diontae, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee, R Higgins
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, D. Johnson, Aiyuk, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Perriman
TE | Andrews, Henry, Sample, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Glennon, Stidham
RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
WR | Evans, Ridley, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger


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