CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

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CMC/Sutton or Adams/Kamara

CMC/Sutton
22
85%
Adams/Kamara
4
15%
 
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CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby migouch99 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:15 am

Disclaimer: This isn't an official offer but more of a gut check on where people sit with CMC

The owner of CMC is gagging for an elite WR. His latest "I don't know if I would do it" offer was CMC and TY Hilton for Adams and Kamara (team 2). Whilst I have zero intention on TY he also has Sutton who I do like.

If this was a solid deal with Sutton not TY, is this a gamble for my team? CMC is CMC but he's also at his highest value right now with potential regression coming but it's still going to be a workhorse role. I can't quite get my head around if I need to make this move or not.

TEAM 1
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 28 Total
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QB: Mahomes, Murray
RB: Elliott, Drake, Taylor, Gurley, Ingram, Monty, Scott, Yeldon, M.Brown
WR: Adams, ARob, Ridley, DiJohnson, C.Davis, Crowder, Perriman, Allison, Ginn,
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Graham, Griffin, Knox
D/ST: Steelers, Patriots
Taxi: Jeudy, AJ Dillon
———
2020: 1.12, 2.10, 4.12

TEAM 2
10 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 24 Total
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QB: Jackson, Minshew, Rivers
RB: Zeke, Fournette, Jacobs, DJ, Coleman, Hyde, Pollard, Gaskin
WR: Evans, Diggs, Arob, Chark, Crowder, A.Miller, Funchess, S.Miller, Perriman, JJWhiteside, Butler,
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Gesicki, Smith Jr
D/ST: 49ers, Colts
Taxi: Evans, Hasty, Pittman
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2021: 1.x (early), 2.x

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Goddard » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 am

If he's not sure he'd do it with Hilton, I don't see how you can get him to add Sutton instead. If he did though, I'd say it's pretty close and would definitely consider it for your team.

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Z$$$ » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:25 am

If you believe that Kamara will get “back to form” then I’d keep your players. If you don’t and he’s willing to do Sutton instead of TY I’d do it. Would not do the deal as it sits with TY
10 Team PPR: 1QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-2TE, D/ST
QB: Ryan, Allen, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Singletary, Gallman, Harris
WR: Adams, Sutton, Kupp, Cooks, Hardman, Bebee, Crowder
TE: Hockenson, Goedert, Rudolph
2020 Picks: 1.02

12 Team PPR/IDP: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Lock
RB: CMC, Sanders, Singletary, Montgomery
WR: Adams, JuJu, DJ Moore, Ridley, Kirk, M Brown, Campbell
TE: Kittle, Andrews, Goedert
D: S. Thompson, L. David, D. James, D. White
2020 Picks: 1.02, 2.11

16 Team .5 PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Cousins, Haskins
RB: Singletary, Sanders, Dallas, D Freeman, Samuels
WR: DJM, Godwin, Jeudy, Hardman, Ross
TE: Hurst, Hollister
2021 Picks: 2x 1st

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby abloom » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:30 am

Sutton is a pretty big + piece here. Easily CMC + Sutton over Kamara + Adams
Dynasty Team #1: 2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wentz, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, Peterson, Armstead
WR: OBJ, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Goedert, Henry
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1.03 (Taylor),4.11 (Everett),5.11 (Bowden),7.11
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Dynasty Team #2: 2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Gurley, Ingram, S Michel, Thompson, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Edwards, Funchess
TE: Fant, Hurst
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2021 picks, 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,7
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Redraft 2019 Champs :dance:
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

Keeper: Kamara

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 am

Goddard wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 am
If he's not sure he'd do it with Hilton, I don't see how you can get him to add Sutton instead. If he did though, I'd say it's pretty close and would definitely consider it for your team.
Exactly what I was thinking...

Sutton>Hilton

I’d absolutely take that trade with Sutton.. CMC is such a huge piece and I’m a Sutton believer..
I would not do it with Hilton.
Team 1:
12 Team PPR 28 roster
1-QB 2-RB 3-WR 3-Flex 1-TE 1-K 1-Def

QB- Patrick Mahomes, Drew Lock

RB- Miles Sanders, Kareem Hunt, Rashaad Penny, Jordan Howard, Duke Johnson, Jaylen Samuels, Chase Edmonds, Tony Pollard, Justin Jackson

WR- OBJ, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Julian Edelman, Andy Isabella, Miles Boykin, Tre’quan Smith, Preston Williams, Russell Gage, Steven Sims

TE- George Kittle, Mark Andrews, Ian Thomas, Chris Herndon

K- Justin Tucker
Def- Cowboys for now

Team 2:
12 Team Standard
1-QB 1-RB 2-WR 1-TE 1-Flex 1-K 1-Def

QB- Deshaun Watson, Kyler Murray

RB- Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, Devin Singletary, David Johnson

WR- DJ Moore, Tyler Boyd, Christian Kirk, Tyler Lockett, Darius Slayton

TE- Mark Andrews, Austin Hooper

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:35 am

Sutton and CMC for me. Without Sutton, no chance.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 Roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: P. Mahomes, J. Allen
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon, D. Guice, L. Murray, R. Anderson, R. Calais
WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, M. Williams, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
TE: I. Thomas, O.J. Howard, D. Njoku, G. Everett, A. Okwuegbunam, G. Olsen

2021 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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12 Team, PPR, 1.5 TE Premium, 25 Roster, 5 Taxi Squad: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, 1 Super Flex
QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
TE: N. Fant, H. Hurst, C. Herndon, T. Moss

2021 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:44 am

migouch99 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:15 am
The owner of CMC is gagging for an elite WR. His latest "I don't know if I would do it" offer was CMC and TY Hilton for Adams and Kamara (team 2). Whilst I have zero intention on TY he also has Sutton who I do like.

If this was a solid deal with Sutton not TY, is this a gamble for my team?
Why would he be willing to include Sutton if he's not even sure he'd include Hilton? Sutton >> Hilton

McCaffrey + Sutton > Adams + Kamara > McCaffrey + Hilton
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:54 am

CMC is the best player here, but I prefer two top 5 position players over the #1 and a top 20.

Give me Adams + Kamara
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Cam, Dak, Tannehill, J.Love, Brissett
RB - M.Ingram, Swift, Kerryon, Freeman, D.Henderson, Hyde, Miller, Cohen, Love
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Fitz, Pettis, Miller, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, Hockenson
2021 - my 1 - 2

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2021 4 and 5


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, Bridgewater,
RB: Mixon, Swift, K.Johnson, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Hollister

2021: All picks

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby mmass » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:07 pm

at this point as a CMC owner I would take Kamara and Adams and Give you CMC with no add on.... the Market is high on CMC at the moment
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Boykins Harmon
Andrews Waller
Pick 2.01


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Foles Brissett
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
Pick 1.01 1.03


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Brisset Taylor Keenum
Edmonds Armstead
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Harry Washington D.Jax Boykins Hamilton Harmon K.Johnson Perriman Pettis Hurd
Andrews Goedart
Picks 1.02 1.03 1.05 1.10 2.02 2.03 3.01 3.02

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon DJHyde Ja.Williams Cohen
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson K.Johnson D.Hamiltion M.Boykin AB
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby migouch99 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:56 am

So at this point he's considering CMC + Sutton for Adams + Kamara + the 3.04

I have another third and whilst it gets me very little, I think chucking it in would maybe get him to budge. Thoughts?

TEAM 1
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 28 Total
———
QB: Mahomes, Murray
RB: Elliott, Drake, Taylor, Gurley, Ingram, Monty, Scott, Yeldon, M.Brown
WR: Adams, ARob, Ridley, DiJohnson, C.Davis, Crowder, Perriman, Allison, Ginn,
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Graham, Griffin, Knox
D/ST: Steelers, Patriots
Taxi: Jeudy, AJ Dillon
———
2020: 1.12, 2.10, 4.12

TEAM 2
10 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 24 Total
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QB: Jackson, Minshew, Rivers
RB: Zeke, Fournette, Jacobs, DJ, Coleman, Hyde, Pollard, Gaskin
WR: Evans, Diggs, Arob, Chark, Crowder, A.Miller, Funchess, S.Miller, Perriman, JJWhiteside, Butler,
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Gesicki, Smith Jr
D/ST: 49ers, Colts
Taxi: Evans, Hasty, Pittman
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2021: 1.x (early), 2.x

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Zacsby » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:15 am

In a trade like this and in a 10 teamer, the 3rds don't really move the needle much. Would have no problem tossing them in if that's all it took to get it done.
12 Tm SF PPR - QB, RB (2), WR (2), TE, FLX (2) SF
QB - Lamar, Brees, Daniel Jones, Taysom, Stidham
RB - CMC, AJ, Drake, Cohen, AP
WR - Golladay, Boyd, Landry, Sanders, Mecole
TE - Kelce, Hurst, Rudolph, Oliver

12 Tm SF, Tiered PPR (.5RB, 1WR, 1.5TE) Start 9
QB - Watson, Daniel Jones, Tannehill, Stidham
RB - Kamara, Carson, Penny, Michel, Scott
WR - Nuk, Evans, Ridley, M-Will, P-Will, Washington
TE - Kittle, Rudolph

24 Tm 2 Copy PPR - QB, RB (2), WR (2), TE, FLX (3)
QB - Stafford, Jimmy G, Cousins
RB - CEH, Taylor, Hunt, Singletary, Moss, Breida, Gibson, Darwin
WR - Godwin, Golladay, AJB, M-Will, Ruggs, Higgins, Duvernay
TE - Andrews, Hurst, Herndon
21 Picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th


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