CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

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CMC/Sutton or Adams/Kamara

CMC/Sutton
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Adams/Kamara
4
15%
 
Total votes: 26

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CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby migouch99 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:15 am

Disclaimer: This isn't an official offer but more of a gut check on where people sit with CMC

The owner of CMC is gagging for an elite WR. His latest "I don't know if I would do it" offer was CMC and TY Hilton for Adams and Kamara (team 2). Whilst I have zero intention on TY he also has Sutton who I do like.

If this was a solid deal with Sutton not TY, is this a gamble for my team? CMC is CMC but he's also at his highest value right now with potential regression coming but it's still going to be a workhorse role. I can't quite get my head around if I need to make this move or not.

TEAM 1
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 28 Total
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QB: Goff, Jackson, Flacco
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Ingram, Yeldon, Morris, M.Brown, Sproles
WR: Adams, JuJu, Robinson, C.Davis, R.Woods, Crowder, Inman, Richardson, Allison, Ross, D.Moore
TE: Kittle, Graham, ASJ, Willson
D/ST: Steelers, Patriots
Taxi:
———
2019: 1.02, 1.10, 2.01

TEAM 2
10 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 24 Total
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QB: Jackson, Minshew, Rivers
RB: Kamara, DJ, Fournette, Jacobs, Coleman, Hyde
WR: Jones, Adams, Diggs, Chalk, Crowder, Miller, Wilson, Hamilton
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Gesicki
D/ST: 49ers, Bears
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2020: 3.04, 3.08

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Goddard » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 am

If he's not sure he'd do it with Hilton, I don't see how you can get him to add Sutton instead. If he did though, I'd say it's pretty close and would definitely consider it for your team.

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Z$$$ » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:25 am

If you believe that Kamara will get “back to form” then I’d keep your players. If you don’t and he’s willing to do Sutton instead of TY I’d do it. Would not do the deal as it sits with TY
10 Team PPR: 1QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-2TE, D/ST
QB: Ryan, Trubisky, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Michel, Singletary, Gallman, Harris
WR: Adams, Cooks, Kupp, M. Brown, Hardman, JJAW, Pettis, Bebee, Crowder
TE: Rudolph, Hockenson, Goedert
D: PHI, SF
2020 Picks: 1.02, 1.07, 3.06

12 Team PPR/IDP: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Lock
RB: CMC, Penny, Montgomery, Sanders, Singletary, McCoy
WR: Adams, JuJu, Ridley, DJ Moore, Kirk, Campbell, M Brown
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Andrews
K: Butker, Tucker
D: S. Thompson, L. David, D. James, D. White, Holcomb
2020 Picks: 1.09, 1.12, 2.01

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby abloom » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:30 am

Sutton is a pretty big + piece here. Easily CMC + Sutton over Kamara + Adams
Dynasty Team #1: 2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Peterson, Armstead, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: OBJ, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel, Walton
TE: Witten, Goedert, Henry
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1.09,1.11,4.11,5.04,5.11,7.11
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Dynasty Team #2: 2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, Ingram, S Michel, Breida, AP, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, J Smith, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1.03, 1.07, 1.10, 2.07, 3.03, 3.10, 4.01, 4.02, 5.10, 7.10
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Redraft 2019 Champs :dance:
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

Keeper: Kamara

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 am

Goddard wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 am
If he's not sure he'd do it with Hilton, I don't see how you can get him to add Sutton instead. If he did though, I'd say it's pretty close and would definitely consider it for your team.
Exactly what I was thinking...

Sutton>Hilton

I’d absolutely take that trade with Sutton.. CMC is such a huge piece and I’m a Sutton believer..
I would not do it with Hilton.
12 Team PPR 1-QB 2-RB 3-WR 3-Flex 1-TE 1-K 1-Def

QB- Patrick Mahomes, Drew Lock

RB- Derrick Henry, Kareem Hunt, Rashaad Penny, Jordan Howard, Duke Johnson, Jaylen Samuels, Chase Edmonds, Tony Pollard, Justin Jackson

WR- OBJ, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Julian Edelman, Andy Isabella, Miles Boykin, Tre’quan Smith, Preston Williams, Russell Gage, Steven Sims

TE- George Kittle, Mark Andrews, Ian Thomas, Chris Herndon

K- Justin Tucker
Def- Cowboys for now

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:35 am

Sutton and CMC for me. Without Sutton, no chance.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 1.01, 1.03, 2.12, 3.11, 4.08, 5.08 2021: 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:44 am

migouch99 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:15 am
The owner of CMC is gagging for an elite WR. His latest "I don't know if I would do it" offer was CMC and TY Hilton for Adams and Kamara (team 2). Whilst I have zero intention on TY he also has Sutton who I do like.

If this was a solid deal with Sutton not TY, is this a gamble for my team?
Why would he be willing to include Sutton if he's not even sure he'd include Hilton? Sutton >> Hilton

McCaffrey + Sutton > Adams + Kamara > McCaffrey + Hilton
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Tannehill
RB: Christian McCaffrey, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Tyler Lockett, Darius Slayton
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce, Dawson Knox, Ian Thomas | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:54 am

CMC is the best player here, but I prefer two top 5 position players over the #1 and a top 20.

Give me Adams + Kamara
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Cam, Dak, Tannehill, Brissett
RB - M.Ingram, Kerryon, Freeman, Hyde, Miller, Cohen, Jackson, Henderson
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Fitz, Pettis, Miller, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, Hockenson
2020 - picks 11, 23, 24
2021 - my 1 - 4

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Darnold, Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Ingram, K.Johnson, Chubb, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2020 3 and 4


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Rivers, Mayfield, Allen, Rudolph
RB: Mixon, Kamara, K.Johnson, Sanders, Ekeler
WR: Keenan, A.Cooper, C.Davis, D.Adams, A-Rob,
TE: Engram, Njoku, Witten

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby mmass » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:07 pm

at this point as a CMC owner I would take Kamara and Adams and Give you CMC with no add on.... the Market is high on CMC at the moment
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr1
Goff Cousins Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Boyd Lockett Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Parker Boykins Harmon
Waller Njuku
Pick 1.11


SF2 - Yr 6 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Rothlisberger Dak Taylor Brisset
Zeke Cook Mixon Hyde Breida Edmonds Gio
M.Thomas Edelman Mclurin J.Landry Kirk
Hooper Goedart


SF3 - Yr 3
Watson Foles Menshew Brissett
Barkley Gordon Ja.Williams
OBJ Hopkins Evans Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Howard Smith Warring
Pick 1.03


SF4 - Orphan Year 1
Dak Jones Brisset Taylor Keenum
Singletary Edmonds
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Harry Washington D.Jax Boykins Hamilton Harmon K.Johnson Perriman Pettis Hurd
Andrews Goedart
Picks 1.02 1.03 1.05 1.10 2.02 2.03 3.01 3.02


Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 4
Brady Stafford Brissett Dalton Lock
CMC DJ Mixon Hyde Ja.Williams Cohen
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Kupp Gallup D.Jackson K.Johnson D.Hamiltion M.Boykin AB
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby migouch99 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:56 am

So at this point he's considering CMC + Sutton for Adams + Kamara + the 3.04

I have another third and whilst it gets me very little, I think chucking it in would maybe get him to budge. Thoughts?

TEAM 1
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 28 Total
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QB: Goff, Jackson, Flacco
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Ingram, Yeldon, Morris, M.Brown, Sproles
WR: Adams, JuJu, Robinson, C.Davis, R.Woods, Crowder, Inman, Richardson, Allison, Ross, D.Moore
TE: Kittle, Graham, ASJ, Willson
D/ST: Steelers, Patriots
Taxi:
———
2019: 1.02, 1.10, 2.01

TEAM 2
10 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1D, 24 Total
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QB: Jackson, Minshew, Rivers
RB: Kamara, DJ, Fournette, Jacobs, Coleman, Hyde
WR: Jones, Adams, Diggs, Chalk, Crowder, Miller, Wilson, Hamilton
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Gesicki
D/ST: 49ers, Bears
———
2020: 3.04, 3.08

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Zacsby » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:15 am

In a trade like this and in a 10 teamer, the 3rds don't really move the needle much. Would have no problem tossing them in if that's all it took to get it done.
24 Tm 2 Copy PPR - QB, RB (2), WR (2), TE, FLX (2)
QB - Cousins, Jimmy G
RB - Hunt, Guice, Breida, Gallman
WR - Godwin, Golladay, Kirk, M-Will, Davis
TE - Andrews, Herndon, Hurst
20 Picks - 1.01, 1.02, 1.22, 1.24, 2.01, 2.02, 2.23

14 Tm PPR - QB, RB (2), WR (2), TE, FLX (2)
QB - Josh Allen, Lock, Foles
RB - Chubb, Rojo, Justice, Samuels, Love, Laird
WR - Juju, DJM, Sutton, Mecole, Diontae
TE - Hock, Jonnu, Ian Thomas
20 Picks - 1.03, 2.03, 3.03, 4.03

12 Tm SF PPR - QB, RB (2), WR (2), TE, FLX (2) SF
QB - Lamar, Brees, Daniel Jones, Taysom, Stidham
RB - CMC, AJ, Drake, Hunt, Cohen, AP
WR - Golladay, Boyd, Landry, Edelman, Mecole
TE - Hock, Higbee, Rudolph, Oliver


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