Help another playoff team?

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Help another playoff team?

Postby mzkp54 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:06 pm

Trade deadline in a few hours. I'm in the playoffs. Another team has no TE (also in the playoffs) but is the highest scoring team on the season (I'm 2nd highest). I think I can get him to overpay for a TE- maybe something like Ryan Griffin or Kyle Rudolph for John Brown or for a late 1st. Would you take that, or is him being weak at TE for the playoffs more valuable?
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QB- Wilson
RB- , DLewis, Mcguire, Ito Smith,
WR- OBJ AB, Harmon, D. Robinson, D. Moore, Beasley
TE- Kittle, Fells, Reed, VDavis
PK/CB-
DT- C. Jones,, J. Reed
DE- Ngakoue,,Hughes,
LB- Hitchens, Milano, Walker,Van Noy, CJones, CJones
S- Poyer,, Addae, Hyde
Draft Picks: 1.02, 1.03, 1.08, 1.11, 2.01, 2.06, 2.10

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QB- Rodgers, Garoppolo, Tyrod,
RB- ?,Breida CThompson,
WR- Evans, Julio, Golladay, Hilton, Alshon, Hardman, Humphries, Harris
TE- McDonald, Reed, VDavis
PK/CB-
DT- LJoseph, CWilkins, Dareus, Coley
DE- Watt, Dunlap, Griffen
LB- Wagner, Littleton, Cunningham, Holcomb,, Tavai, TSmith, Pratt, Bucannon, Avery
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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby iron » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:15 pm

I would assume that he can get a TE from another team, so I would try for a deal first.
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RB- K.Drake, L.Murray, Mattison, Dex.Williams
WR- M.Evans, J.Landry, Edelman, TY Hilton J.Gordon, Ginn
TE- Witten, C.Brate

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QB- Cousins , Rivers, Roethlisberger, Siemian, Dobbs, C.Kelly, McCown, Rudolph
RB- J.Jacobs, Gurley, Walton, Mostert, Love, Ozigbo, Perine
WR- Hilton,Boyd, Pascal,AJ Brown,R.Cobb,Gabriel,Moore,Kumerow,Pringle
TE- D.Waller, , Burton,Brate,Swoope,Fells,K.Smith,Hollister

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:27 pm

Winning titles > winning trades

Up to you. All depends on if you think you can beat this team.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Tyler Lockett, Darius Slayton
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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:30 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:27 pm
Winning titles > winning trades

Up to you. All depends on if you think you can beat this team.
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RB: Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Whittles12 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:45 pm

It looks like it’s a TE premium. Don’t think I like the idea of helping the strongest team, get stronger. It’s not a top pick, most likely 1.11/1.12. Why strengthen your opponent. If anything, I am trying to weaken his team. Is a late 1st, worth potently losing a title. As Herm said, you play to win the game.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am

The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Goddard » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:08 am

I'd move either of those TEs for a 1st very easily, regardless of his team makeup.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:18 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am
The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.
thank god someone here can reason lol

the thought of passing on a first because you dont want a competitor to have a throw away TE is asinine
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1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:44 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:18 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am
The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.
thank god someone here can reason lol

the thought of passing on a first because you dont want a competitor to have a throw away TE is asinine
That's your opinion, which is fine, but that doesn't mean it's 100% the correct answer. No need to be arrogant in calling it "asinine" to not make this trade.

If it were my team, and I lost the title anyway and didn't get the 1st, I lost out on some value, which sucks, but it's not the end of the world. If I lost the title because another contender used a TE that I sold to him, I would be livid.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Tannehill
RB: Christian McCaffrey, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Tyler Lockett, Darius Slayton
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce, Dawson Knox, Ian Thomas | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Darwin Thompson, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 3.08 | 2021 Picks: 1st

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:07 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:44 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:18 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am
The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.
thank god someone here can reason lol

the thought of passing on a first because you dont want a competitor to have a throw away TE is asinine
That's your opinion, which is fine, but that doesn't mean it's 100% the correct answer. No need to be arrogant in calling it "asinine" to not make this trade.

If it were my team, and I lost the title anyway and didn't get the 1st, I lost out on some value, which sucks, but it's not the end of the world. If I lost the title because another contender used a TE that I sold to him, I would be livid.
So you just don’t trade with half the league then typically?

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby LarryJanuary » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:43 pm

It's pretty easy to overestimate how much one player improves a team. The chances of Griffin losing you a head to head vs him/him winning because he has Griffin over whatever replacement he'd be using is extremely small. I'd very easily take a first and be able to accept the very unlikely reality I lost a statistically significant amount of EV.
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QB: Mahomes, Prescott
RB: Jonathan Williams, Carson, Harris, Duke, Ronald
WR: Allen, Cooper, Moore, Thielen, Miller, CD, Washington, Quinn
TE: Hock, Ebron

Picks: 2020: 2nd, 3rd, 4th 2021: 1st, 2x2nd

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QB: Jones, Haskins, Foles
RB: Mixon, Penny, Jackson, Hilliard, Love, Edmunds, Homer
WR: Juju, Davis, Moore, Metcalf, Harry, Coutee, Hardman, Hurd, Wilson
TE: Herndon, Irv, Ian Thomas

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby IR1 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:49 pm

If you can get a 1st for Griffin, I’d do that easy. He could easily end up with a better TE from a rebuilding team. Take the first and hopefully prevent him from getting an elite TE
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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:55 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:07 pm
So you just don’t trade with half the league then typically?
I didn't say that. My point is that it's situationally dependent. We don't know how strong this team is in OP's league. All I'm saying is it's not as easy as "take the 1st".
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Tyler Lockett, Darius Slayton
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce, Dawson Knox, Ian Thomas | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:27 pm

IR1 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:49 pm
If you can get a 1st for Griffin, I’d do that easy. He could easily end up with a better TE from a rebuilding team. Take the first and hopefully prevent him from getting an elite TE
That's a good point. The guy can easily get a better TE elsewhere. You might as well be the one who profits from it.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Adam_172 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:47 am

I'd trade if doesn't hurt your shot at a title this year.
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