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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby frerichs5 » Mon May 15, 2023 8:43 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:31 am
frerichs5 wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:29 am
Pac_Eddy wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 7:09 am I've been hearing that the Vikings are cutting or trading Dalvin all offseason. Now that they're under the cap and the draft is long past, it would make sense to hang onto Dalvin this year. Just my guess.

As for Mattison, I like him and the Vikings just signed him to a two year deal. Not sure what to make of that. If Dalvin is moved out, Mattison is a great start. I wouldn't say as good as Pollard though. Feels like Pollard is a better receiver and has more big day potential.
As a Vikings fan, I would be surprised if they keep him at this point. All indications are they are waiting until June 1 to cut him.
Zeke was already cut with a June 1st designation...they don't have to wait. There's more to the story here.
No, they don’t have to wait. But they were trying to trade him. Cutting with a June 1st designation does nothing for your cap right now. All that does is make the team not have to pay bonuses that might come up before June 1st. They’d have the same cap space they currently do if they used the designation. Nothing changes until after June 1st either way cap wise.

Edit: he also had off-season surgery. They didn’t want to cut him then as he’d have a failed physical. And he had some injury guarantees I believe. So also waiting until he’s healthy enough to pass physical.

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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby Needalife » Mon May 15, 2023 9:34 am

I see that this has turned into a Pollard vs Mattison discussion. It's probably a good comp IMO. I think Pollard showed what he can do last year so he obviously has a leg up. But I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Mattison. Mattison has looked like a clone of Dalvin when given the opportunity and Dalvin has been a perennial RB1. It could definitely happen and I could see Pollard and Mattison both being top 10 RBs if AMatt is given the lead role. Going to be interesting. Really like both. Buying up Mattision where I can.
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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon May 15, 2023 4:03 pm

The talk last year of letting Mattison go (due to not matching the new offensive scheme) would have me questioning the relevance of his history of bell cow touches and worried about his production/value.
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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby Ice » Mon May 15, 2023 4:06 pm

Needalife wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 9:34 am I see that this has turned into a Pollard vs Mattison discussion. It's probably a good comp IMO. I think Pollard showed what he can do last year so he obviously has a leg up. But I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Mattison. Mattison has looked like a clone of Dalvin when given the opportunity and Dalvin has been a perennial RB1. It could definitely happen and I could see Pollard and Mattison both being top 10 RBs if AMatt is given the lead role. Going to be interesting. Really like both. Buying up Mattision where I can.
Interesting post but don’t kid yourself.

Pollard is WAY WAY Better!

Nothing wrong with buying a few shares of Mattison

But

Pollard is WAY WAY Better!
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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon May 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Ice wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 4:06 pm
Needalife wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 9:34 am I see that this has turned into a Pollard vs Mattison discussion. It's probably a good comp IMO. I think Pollard showed what he can do last year so he obviously has a leg up. But I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Mattison. Mattison has looked like a clone of Dalvin when given the opportunity and Dalvin has been a perennial RB1. It could definitely happen and I could see Pollard and Mattison both being top 10 RBs if AMatt is given the lead role. Going to be interesting. Really like both. Buying up Mattision where I can.
Interesting post but don’t kid yourself.

Pollard is WAY WAY Better!

Nothing wrong with buying a few shares of Mattison

But

Pollard is WAY WAY Better!
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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby frerichs5 » Tue May 16, 2023 4:41 pm

Vikings official Twitter account now has Cousins, Hock, JJ, and………..Mattison in their banner image. Maybe nothing, but like I said a few posts back, I’ll be surprised if Cook is back.

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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby ericanadian » Tue May 16, 2023 6:48 pm

frerichs5 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:41 pm Vikings official Twitter account now has Cousins, Hock, JJ, and………..Mattison in their banner image. Maybe nothing, but like I said a few posts back, I’ll be surprised if Cook is back.
Should have Hunter for some defense representation.
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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed May 17, 2023 7:52 am

ericanadian wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:48 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:41 pm Vikings official Twitter account now has Cousins, Hock, JJ, and………..Mattison in their banner image. Maybe nothing, but like I said a few posts back, I’ll be surprised if Cook is back.
Should have Hunter for some defense representation.
That would be false advertising then as the Vikings don't have a defense.

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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed May 17, 2023 12:15 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:52 am
ericanadian wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:48 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:41 pm Vikings official Twitter account now has Cousins, Hock, JJ, and………..Mattison in their banner image. Maybe nothing, but like I said a few posts back, I’ll be surprised if Cook is back.
Should have Hunter for some defense representation.
That would be false advertising then as the Vikings don't have a defense.
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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby halfbaked88 » Wed May 17, 2023 2:18 pm

What are you paying/selling Mattison for today ?

Would you rather have Roschon/Bigbsy/Spears?

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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed May 17, 2023 2:33 pm

halfbaked88 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:18 pm What are you paying/selling Mattison for today ?

Would you rather have Roschon/Bigbsy/Spears?
I'd prefer the rookies 9/10 times, but there's a scenario where Mattison takes over, holds off the rest of the RB room and gains more value than any of those rookies this year.

But it all hinges on Dalvin leaving. If Dalvin stays, the rookies are a no brainer

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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed May 17, 2023 10:46 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:33 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:18 pm What are you paying/selling Mattison for today ?

Would you rather have Roschon/Bigbsy/Spears?
I'd prefer the rookies 9/10 times, but there's a scenario where Mattison takes over, holds off the rest of the RB room and gains more value than any of those rookies this year.

But it all hinges on Dalvin leaving. If Dalvin stays, the rookies are a no brainer
Give me Mattison all day over Spears. It might be a knee jerk reaction, but I'm taking the vet, here.
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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby halfbaked88 » Thu May 18, 2023 5:15 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:46 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:33 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:18 pm What are you paying/selling Mattison for today ?

Would you rather have Roschon/Bigbsy/Spears?
I'd prefer the rookies 9/10 times, but there's a scenario where Mattison takes over, holds off the rest of the RB room and gains more value than any of those rookies this year.

But it all hinges on Dalvin leaving. If Dalvin stays, the rookies are a no brainer
Give me Mattison all day over Spears. It might be a knee jerk reaction, but I'm taking the vet, here.
Spears range of outcomes may end up essentially being a redshirt season. I liked Haskins last year for many of the same situational reasons. Ultimately as long as Henry is playing it's a minimum 70/30 split.

I'm considering sending Singletary+James Robinson for Mattison... It just seems like poor process. I think all 3 of these guys fall into "handcuff" territory. Would take Roschon or Bigsby over all of them.

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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu May 18, 2023 6:50 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:46 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:33 pm
halfbaked88 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:18 pm What are you paying/selling Mattison for today ?

Would you rather have Roschon/Bigbsy/Spears?
I'd prefer the rookies 9/10 times, but there's a scenario where Mattison takes over, holds off the rest of the RB room and gains more value than any of those rookies this year.

But it all hinges on Dalvin leaving. If Dalvin stays, the rookies are a no brainer
Give me Mattison all day over Spears. It might be a knee jerk reaction, but I'm taking the vet, here.
I do have Spears lower than the other 2 and probably should have said that his range of outcomes is probably on the lower end than Mattison. He's got serious health concerns and may not even outlast Mattison, even if he does gain a role

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Re: Alexander Mattison value?

Postby j4pac » Thu May 18, 2023 8:49 am

Mattison isn’t good. He may look like a clone of Cook at times but it’s an optical illusion because he’s a black guy of the same size and same hair. But he’s nowhere near the player (or at least the player that Cook was). Lol at the Pollard comps. Pollard has been among the most explosive backs in the NFL and highly productive even in a timeshare. Mattison has disappointed whenever he has had the opportunity to shine. I’d bet that Pollard is closer to RB1 overall than Mattison is to Pollard this year.

But Tajae Spears? Come on now. The guy has one ACL is behind one of the most durable and good RBs in NFL history. Derrick Henry has a legitimate shot of being in the NFL longer than Spears.
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