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Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:29 pm
by stoneghost28
I overpaid in every deal I made in the fall to get him and I'm glad I did. Also managed to snag him on waivers in one league. Went from zero shares to four in my 11 dynasty leagues.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:26 pm
by Kmani6
bjd5211 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:47 am Wow, he got hurt and his performance slipped for a few games, that's never happened to any player ever I bet...
Barely was hurt and missed only 1 game. He was exceptionally hot to start the season then cooled off.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:41 pm
by jetsfan5757
Kmani6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:26 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:47 am Wow, he got hurt and his performance slipped for a few games, that's never happened to any player ever I bet...
Barely was hurt and missed only 1 game. He was exceptionally hot to start the season then cooled off.
Truth on both sides.
I'm still highly encouraged.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:10 pm
by bjd5211
Kmani6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:26 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:47 am Wow, he got hurt and his performance slipped for a few games, that's never happened to any player ever I bet...
Barely was hurt and missed only 1 game. He was exceptionally hot to start the season then cooled off.
Doesn't mean he was completely healthy when he did return...

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:09 am
by Kmani6
It’s the NFL no one is ever completely healthy, and that’s not realistic to expect either. In reality Chark stared off really hot, was bought at a high price by many, and then tapered off substantially. He’s definitely a much better buy now then mid season, but if you bought mid season then he’s a strong hold.

The argument I made before was that it was pretty terrible to buy him early to mid season, which was factually correct. He was WR 5-6 through a good portion of the season at that time, and finished WR 17 by the end.

I like Chark and think he is pretty talented, and I said he reminded me of Golladay a bit, but as I said before I didn’t think he was a great buy at the time, which I still believe.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:35 pm
by stoneghost28
I have zero regrets. Love him as a talent, period. Think he'll be a WR1 going forward. Somewhere in the back end of WR1's, but a WR1 overall. Looks like he was 19th in PPG with a QB tandem of Minchew/Bad Foles in a lost season. I'll take that w/o a second thought.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:53 pm
by gbf88
I like him but dont see him as a wr1. If you have him, keep him. If you dont then I wouldnt overpay , think his value is still high

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:23 pm
by Ice
stoneghost28 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:35 pm I have zero regrets. Love him as a talent, period. Think he'll be a WR1 going forward. Somewhere in the back end of WR1's, but a WR1 overall. Looks like he was 19th in PPG with a QB tandem of Minchew/Bad Foles in a lost season. I'll take that w/o a second thought.
No disagreement. He could sure use a decent QB and should get a better O Coordinator next year.

He was open a lot this year and the QB’s just missed.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:53 pm
by FantasyFreak
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:23 pm
stoneghost28 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:35 pm I have zero regrets. Love him as a talent, period. Think he'll be a WR1 going forward. Somewhere in the back end of WR1's, but a WR1 overall. Looks like he was 19th in PPG with a QB tandem of Minchew/Bad Foles in a lost season. I'll take that w/o a second thought.
No disagreement. He could sure use a decent QB and should get a better O Coordinator next year.

He was open a lot this year and the QB’s just missed.
Curious how you know this. Do you watch a lot of Jags games? Is there a metric or stat on this? If there was I'd love to see it. Would help to see what WR's may be in line for an improvement moreso than others with a QB upgrade.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:43 am
by Ice
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:53 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:23 pm
stoneghost28 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:35 pm I have zero regrets. Love him as a talent, period. Think he'll be a WR1 going forward. Somewhere in the back end of WR1's, but a WR1 overall. Looks like he was 19th in PPG with a QB tandem of Minchew/Bad Foles in a lost season. I'll take that w/o a second thought.
No disagreement. He could sure use a decent QB and should get a better O Coordinator next year.

He was open a lot this year and the QB’s just missed.
Curious how you know this. Do you watch a lot of Jags games? Is there a metric or stat on this? If there was I'd love to see it. Would help to see what WR's may be in line for an improvement moreso than others with a QB upgrade.
I record and watch a lot of film on players I own or target especially WR's. I have viewed a ton of plays on the Jags and focused on him particularly.

The two I have spent considerable time the last month were Chark and D. Johnson. I like to study players I own in my money leagues as I prepare my draft prep for the next season especially players I targeted in the late first and second rounds to see how they progress.

My base study on Chark is he is a strong buy going forward if you don't own him and an obvious hold if you do. Think he is easily the best WR on that team. He had 9 Games at 7 plus targets, 6 of which were 9 plus, 3 of which were 11 plus.

The Colts game where he went 8 receptions on 15 targets is a great game to study. He had great game stats but it could have been much better.

I usually focus on DE's and WR's for fantasy purposes these days.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:21 pm
by PPE82
Bumping to start the hype train with TLaw coming to town.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:39 pm
by blemly
PPE82 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:21 pm Bumping to start the hype train with TLaw coming to town.
Cautiously optimistic. He’s looking like putting up 55-750 in what has obviously been a disappointing 14-game season for Chark. There were certainly factors going against him with the JAX QB carousel, but I still hoped to see a bit more.

Lawrence will certainly help. You likely can’t buy Chark for less than a mid 1st though. I’d have to consider before paying a late 1st, but probably would.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:54 pm
by Jigga94
blemly wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:39 pm
PPE82 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:21 pm Bumping to start the hype train with TLaw coming to town.
Cautiously optimistic. He’s looking like putting up 55-750 in what has obviously been a disappointing 14-game season for Chark. There were certainly factors going against him with the JAX QB carousel, but I still hoped to see a bit more.

Lawrence will certainly help. You likely can’t buy Chark for less than a mid 1st though. I’d have to consider before paying a late 1st, but probably would.
Same here. He's a good WR. I would expect WR2 numbers with better QB play. He had a lot of subpar QB play and I feel that Minshew spreads it out a lot. I'm willing to write this season off for the most part and would buy low if I could

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:31 pm
by notweswelker
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:54 pm
Same here. He's a good WR. I would expect WR2 numbers with better QB play. He had a lot of subpar QB play and I feel that Minshew spreads it out a lot. I'm willing to write this season off for the most part and would buy low if I could
I'm looking to buy for a late first. Lawrence is going to come in and light it up.
At the very least Lawrence will be the best quarterback Chark has ever had throw him the ball.

Re: DJ Chark

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:36 pm
by Jigga94
notweswelker wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:31 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:54 pm
Same here. He's a good WR. I would expect WR2 numbers with better QB play. He had a lot of subpar QB play and I feel that Minshew spreads it out a lot. I'm willing to write this season off for the most part and would buy low if I could
I'm looking to buy for a late first. Lawrence is going to come in and light it up.
At the very least Lawrence will be the best quarterback Chark has ever had throw him the ball.
Agreed. Wonder if they snag a WR early as well though. They could definitely use some as they will only have Chark, Shenault and Collin Johnson under contract. Cole, Dede and Conley all FA. Not that they'd be expensive to bring back, but they need someone