It tells people that Cobb has an easily replaceable role and skill set, Jordy does not, so he's the priority.Payton34 wrote:The wording between the two reports is WAY different. For Jennings, we had a guy who was shopping around and the report being he may, "Very well end up re-signing".... That's a bit different than the report on Jordy I'd say where the Pack appears to be desiring to re-sign him by all accounts....WiscoWise wrote:Go ahead and clap when it actually happens, until then it's just speculation. People treat roto-blurbs like they've already occurred. Demovsky is good but not always accurate. Here's one from the Greg Jennings era:
"Two sources tell ESPN Milwaukee that free agent Greg Jennings could "very well" end up re-signing with the Packers.
We're starting to get the same feeling. Now that the Vikings have reportedly backed off their pursuit of Jennings and the Dolphins have made their move with Mike Wallace, the seven-year veteran's market is drying. Couple that with an earlier report that the Packers had offered him $10 million per year and we have a lot of smoke. For what it's worth, Jennings says he has visits lined up. "I definitely have some destinations in mind and I'm going to keep them close to the vest," he said Tuesday.
Source: ESPN Milwaukee Wed, Mar 13, 2013 08:48:00 AM"
As a Packers Fan I'd love to see them re-sign Jordy, just trying to get people to tap the breaks on the assumption he'll be re-signed.
Doesn't mean its going to happen. Just that they certainly seem like they'll make a valiant effort.
What does the Jordy report mean for Cobb though? They aren't even going to speak to Cobb until they have Jordy figured out, so what does THAT tell people?
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It was a rhetorical question, but....... yeah.italian_stallion21 wrote:It tells people that Cobb has an easily replaceable role and skill set, Jordy does not, so he's the priority.Payton34 wrote:The wording between the two reports is WAY different. For Jennings, we had a guy who was shopping around and the report being he may, "Very well end up re-signing".... That's a bit different than the report on Jordy I'd say where the Pack appears to be desiring to re-sign him by all accounts....WiscoWise wrote:Go ahead and clap when it actually happens, until then it's just speculation. People treat roto-blurbs like they've already occurred. Demovsky is good but not always accurate. Here's one from the Greg Jennings era:
"Two sources tell ESPN Milwaukee that free agent Greg Jennings could "very well" end up re-signing with the Packers.
We're starting to get the same feeling. Now that the Vikings have reportedly backed off their pursuit of Jennings and the Dolphins have made their move with Mike Wallace, the seven-year veteran's market is drying. Couple that with an earlier report that the Packers had offered him $10 million per year and we have a lot of smoke. For what it's worth, Jennings says he has visits lined up. "I definitely have some destinations in mind and I'm going to keep them close to the vest," he said Tuesday.
Source: ESPN Milwaukee Wed, Mar 13, 2013 08:48:00 AM"
As a Packers Fan I'd love to see them re-sign Jordy, just trying to get people to tap the breaks on the assumption he'll be re-signed.
Doesn't mean its going to happen. Just that they certainly seem like they'll make a valiant effort.
What does the Jordy report mean for Cobb though? They aren't even going to speak to Cobb until they have Jordy figured out, so what does THAT tell people?
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Haha, I knew that it was, but I was getting the thought that others didn't quite understand (or have Cobb on some sort of pedestal).Payton34 wrote:It was a rhetorical question, but....... yeah.italian_stallion21 wrote:It tells people that Cobb has an easily replaceable role and skill set, Jordy does not, so he's the priority.
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And hey, Cobb belongs there as long as he's with GB... Soooooooo how many more months he got?italian_stallion21 wrote:Haha, I knew that it was, but I was getting the thought that others didn't quite understand (or have Cobb on some sort of pedestal).Payton34 wrote:It was a rhetorical question, but....... yeah.italian_stallion21 wrote:It tells people that Cobb has an easily replaceable role and skill set, Jordy does not, so he's the priority.
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It means they view Nelson as more valuable. It doesn't mean they think Cobb is worthless like the idiotic post above.italian_stallion21 wrote:Haha, I knew that it was, but I was getting the thought that others didn't quite understand (or have Cobb on some sort of pedestal).Payton34 wrote:It was a rhetorical question, but....... yeah.italian_stallion21 wrote:It tells people that Cobb has an easily replaceable role and skill set, Jordy does not, so he's the priority.
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I'm hoping Adams will have high end WR2 numbers in three years and play with Rogers for 8 years.
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Considering I didn't say Cobb was worthless, yours would be the idiotic one. I may not have the same high valuation as others, but he's far from worthless. His value though is mostly tied to the offense he's in, you don't see many small, slow slot WR succeed without elite QB's. If he does leave, and goes almost anywhere else he's not nearly as valuable. Worthless? No. But definitely not top 10-12 like we're seeing now.voiceofunreason wrote:italian_stallion21 wrote:It means they view Nelson as more valuable. It doesn't mean they think Cobb is worthless like the idiotic post above.Payton34 wrote:
Haha, I knew that it was, but I was getting the thought that others didn't quite understand (or have Cobb on some sort of pedestal).
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In my recent rookie/FA draft Adams fell to me @ 2.6. I just about did a backflip
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you guys are all looking at cobb as the odd man out imo. that jordy report tells me that if they cant get nelson to sign a deal where its feasible to lock cobb up long term, jordy will be the one walking after the season. in steps adams in jordy's role and the train keeps rolling with cobb and adams for the next few years.Payton34 wrote:What does the Jordy report mean for Cobb though? They aren't even going to speak to Cobb until they have Jordy figured out, so what does THAT tell people?
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A few things:
(1) Haven't we learned that Rodgers and GB can make 3 WRs successful?
(2) Adams is a dynasty asset. Regardless of contract situation, Jordy is a health-risk and isn't a spring chicken. By the time Adams hits his 3rd year in the league, it's highly probable that Jordy will be gone.
(1) Haven't we learned that Rodgers and GB can make 3 WRs successful?
(2) Adams is a dynasty asset. Regardless of contract situation, Jordy is a health-risk and isn't a spring chicken. By the time Adams hits his 3rd year in the league, it's highly probable that Jordy will be gone.
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That some other dude is Jeff Janis..and the kid is an athletic freak..not saying you have to have him or anything, but do some research on the kid and I think you will be surprised..Payton34 wrote:And maybe its just me, but people seem to ignore Boykin as well... I honestly think he's 1st in line if Cobb doesn't come back next year...
If I were a betting man, I'd guess that the Packers re-sign Nelson, let Cobb walk, Boykin fills Cobb's slot and Adams becomes WR 3.... Yes, I know the Packers also drafted a couple other receivers..... The Abracadabra kid from Wisconsin and some other dude... But lets not pretend that every time they draft somebody it means they're going to enter the lineup....
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Re: Davante Adams
Jeff Janis is just this year's Charles Johnson. He'll be on the practice squad for the foreseeable future.
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Agreed. The Packers made it a habit of picking up highly athletic development prospects late in the draft or as UDFAs, and which generated some hype in the FF community. So far none of them made it very far:DLFiend wrote:Jeff Janis is just this year's Charles Johnson. He'll be on the practice squad for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Davante Adams
Jordy Nelson is the best receiver on the roster who can line up anywhere and produce. They view him as such, and will get him locked up long term. Nelson isn't going anywhere. Cobb will re-sign as long as he's not looking for elite money. If he does re-sign, I see him as the slot menace and the swiss army knife with Nelson and Adams on the outside.sloth8u wrote:you guys are all looking at cobb as the odd man out imo. that jordy report tells me that if they cant get nelson to sign a deal where its feasible to lock cobb up long term, jordy will be the one walking after the season. in steps adams in jordy's role and the train keeps rolling with cobb and adams for the next few years.Payton34 wrote:What does the Jordy report mean for Cobb though? They aren't even going to speak to Cobb until they have Jordy figured out, so what does THAT tell people?
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im not going to argue who the best wr on the team is. both are very productive. i do feel that due to age, cobb is more valuable to them and is considered their long term target of the two. i get the whole chatter about cobb manning the slot, but ive read reports that they are looking to move him to the outside and take away kick return duties. when talking about gb resigning guys i think its important to look at their history and that tells us that jordy at 29 and cobb at 24 has to be taken into consideration.
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