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Need advice on how to proceed

Postby Ski mask ready » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Hey I’m founder and Co-commissioner for this league. One of my strategies which sometimes rubs people the wrong way but also works occasionally at the same time is to offer large packages for targeted assets. We don’t have trade reviews, we don’t vote, we don’t veto. Everyone pays and can run their team however they want. With that said I sent the following trade offer and now kinda regret doing it since it was accepted solely for the fact I feel like it’s a bad deal for the other guy.

Offered: Antonio Brown, D Parker C Conely, M Davis and all 2022 picks

For: Diggs and Lockett

I do have to pay in advance for those picks. I haven’t done that yet nor had the trade been pushed through. In reality no one knows it’s there but me and the other guy. However I feel like this is a bad deal for this guy and this is solely a personal conscious thing. Not a league violation or anything. I feel like this trade will hurt this team more than help that is already in a serious rebuild.

Thoughts??
12 Team PPR, IDP Dynasty 40 Man Roster
Lineup: QB, 2 RB, 2WR, TE, flex (rb, wr, te), 2 DL, 2 LB, 3 DB, Flex Defender

QB: Wentz, Flacco, Lock, Minshew
RB: DJ, Fournette, Mixon, Yeldon, C.J. Anderson, P. Barber, D. Hilliard, Sproles,
WR: M Evans, AJ Green, Woods, Diggs, Locket, Higgins, K. Joshnson AZ, P. Willaims, K.Stills,
TE: Ertz, C. Clay, Jesse James, J Oliver
DL: Bosa, C Jones, L Williams, E Ansah, M Wilkerson, F Cox
LB: L David, K Alexander, A Ogeltree, D Jones, T Davis
DB: L Collins, S Harrison, B Baker, Geathers, Apple

No picks until 2022

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:17 pm

Dummy shouldn't have accepted, but AB is probably going to be fine (if he keeps his nose clean from here on) and maybe he gets something good out of those picks. He'll learn or leave.

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby MrUbuto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:22 pm

I'd take the AB side.

You sure you aren't regretting it for yourself? Haha

What are the picks?
QB - DWatson(HOU)RWilson(SEA)Winston(TB)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - GOlsen(CAR)HHenry(SD)
K - Zurlien(LAR)GEORGIO TEVECHIO!!!
Def - JAGS 49ers
[rookie] ACalloway(CLE)NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)
2 2020 1st 1 2020 2nd
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby abloom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:30 pm

Well the question is whether or not you believe week 1 is an anomaly or not. Hey maybe we're seeing AB going to a dominant offense and going to put up a season like Moss's first with the pats.

Conly will get junk time points like the arob bortles days, Mike Davis will be the rb1 in Chicago, and picks are picks.

Meanwhile diggs is now in an offense where they are going to run 75% of the time and split targets with theilin and possibly a te. Then you have lockett who has somehow managed to score on an insanely high percentage of his catches. Can he keep this up? Maybe. But he's still on a team that should be run first.

While I wouldn't have made i the trade, I can certainly see a narrative where he comes out on top. If you really feel bad offer him an additional asset.
Team #1 (1-0) rank: 3/12
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5ppr for te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Haskins
RB: C McCaffrey, Guice, Hunt, Samuels, Bernard, Peterson, R Anderson (IR), McKinnon (IR)
WR: D Hopkins, M Evans, Edelman, C Kirk, K Couttee, C Samuel, Allison
TE: Davis, Goedert
DST: NE
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,2,2,4,5,6,7
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Team #2 (1-0) rank: 3/12
12 team, 1ppr (1.5ppr for te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Darnold, Murray
RB: Ingram, D. Freeman, Breida, Murray, J. Hill, D. Thopson, Bernard
WR: Hopkins, Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Miller, Pettis
TE: McDonald, Fant
K: Crosby
DST: Bal

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (1-0) rank 2/10
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brees, Newton
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, McLaurin, T Williams
TE: Hockenson
K: Bryant
DST: BAL

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby jman3134 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:04 pm

It is a bet on if AB will play because he is better than both those guys. If he plays this year, he wins this deal.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Baker Mayfield, Drew Brees, Nick Foles
Rb: Saquon Barkley, Joe Mixon, Matt Breida, Austin Ekeler, Chase Edmonds, Trenton Cannon, Mike Boone, Troymaine Pope, Jalen Richard, D'Ernest Johnson, Dare Ogunbowale
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, AJ Green, Julian Edelman, John Brown, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Jake Kumerow, Chris Conley, Richie James, Jaron Brown, Marquise Goodwin, Jakobi Meyers, Diontae Spencer, Keelan Doss
Te: OJ Howard, George Kittle, Darren Waller, Jonnu Smith
K: Jason Myers
D: Baltimore Ravens
2020 picks: 2 early 1st, 1 late 2020 1st, 4, 7,8,9,10,10

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby honcho55 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:10 pm

All 2022 picks meaning what? A 1,2,3,4?

If that’s the case this is more than fine. If I’m full rebuild I don’t particularly want to build around Diggs or Lockett.

I don’t know what to make of brown right now, but who knows. Maybe he turns in a moss like season under Brady. Maybe he gets exempt listed and is done with the NFL soon. Maybe dude can flip him in the meantime. Hard to say.

I wouldn’t worry.
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14 team
start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT. Roster 15, 2 IR. keep 10 every year (must keep one each pos) *transitioning to more keepers/full dyno over a couple years

QB: Wilson, Carr
RB: E Elliot, D Henry, M Ingram, R Armstead, D Ozigbo, M Brown, A Morris
WR. O. Beckham, J Smith-Schuster, M Thomas, R Woods, P Williams
TE. T Kelce, V McDonald

2020 picks: two 1sts, three 3rds
(Project 1 top 3, one mid-late)
2021: two 1sts, three 2s, 3, two 4s
2022: three 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby MrUbuto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 pm

Bottom line is I see no reason a commisioner or any kind of gore needs to be in play here.

Option A AB balls out and team A got AB and a plethora of picks

Option B team A rolled the dice on AB and failed miserable. Oh well it happens
QB - DWatson(HOU)RWilson(SEA)Winston(TB)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - GOlsen(CAR)HHenry(SD)
K - Zurlien(LAR)GEORGIO TEVECHIO!!!
Def - JAGS 49ers
[rookie] ACalloway(CLE)NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)
2 2020 1st 1 2020 2nd
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby moishetreats » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:12 am

The trade is done, push it through.

(I wonder if you're really regretting it more so than worried about the other owner. )
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Tm 1: 10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex

QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Tannehill, Finley, Hill
RB: Gurley, Gordon, Mixon, Breida, M Brown, T Carson
WR: Hill, Cooper, Hilton, Edelman, Anderson, Da Moore, Kumerow, K Johnson, Higgins, Meyers
TE: Kelce, Howard, Herndon, Goedert, Hurst

2020: 3rd, 4thx2, 5thx3
2021: 2nd, 3rd, 5thx2



Tm 2: 12 tms 22 plyrs {IR} [Taxi]. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex/ best ball

QB: Goff (14/20),Winston (2/19), Garappolo (5/20), Brissett (1/21)
RB: Conner (4/19), A Jones (10/19), Sanders (16/23), Lindsay (11/21), T Montgomery (1/19) {Miller (1/21)}, [Dex Williams (4/23), Barnes (1/23), Higdon (1/23), Gaskins (1/23)]
WR: Smith-Schuster, (19/19), Cooper, ($28/20), Allen (29/21), Woods (16/21), R Anderson (3/21), Reynolds (2/22), Z Jones (1/21), Humphries (1/19), Meyers (1/21)
TE: Ertz (22/21), Goedert (8/22), Davis (1/19), Swaim (1/19)
Total+dead cap hits $286

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby mratlanta » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:49 am

I'd probably take the AB side so you should push it through and cry in 2022 when you don't have any picks.
12-team Non-PPR QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, TE, K, DEF
QB: Mahomes, Cam
RB: LeVeon, Jordan Howard, Latavius, Ty Montgomery, Damarea Crockett, Dexter Williams
WR: OBJ, Antonio Brown, Corey Davis, Robby Anderson, Anthony Miller, Arcega-Whiteside, Kenny Stills,
Kelvin Harmon, Diontae Johnson, Hakeem Butler
TE: OJ Howard, Evan Engram, Mike Gesicki
K: Zuerlein
DEF: Denver

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:14 pm

I see no issue with this trade...Brown has the potential to finish as the no. 1 fantasy WR this year in NE.
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QB: Aaron Rodgers, Kyler Murray, Gardner Minshew II
RB: Christian McCaffrey, James Conner, Tevin Coleman, Darwin Thompson, Tony Pollard, Chase Edmonds, Benny Snell
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Tyler Lockett, Brandin Cooks, Chris Conley, Trey Quinn
TE: Travis Kelce, George Kittle, Ian Thomas | K: Stephen Gostkowski | DST: BUF
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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby Prison_Mike » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:58 pm

abloom wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:30 pm
Well the question is whether or not you believe week 1 is an anomaly or not. Hey maybe we're seeing AB going to a dominant offense and going to put up a season like Moss's first with the pats.

Conly will get junk time points like the arob bortles days, Mike Davis will be the rb1 in Chicago, and picks are picks.

Meanwhile diggs is now in an offense where they are going to run 75% of the time and split targets with theilin and possibly a te. Then you have lockett who has somehow managed to score on an insanely high percentage of his catches. Can he keep this up? Maybe. But he's still on a team that should be run first.

While I wouldn't have made i the trade, I can certainly see a narrative where he comes out on top. If you really feel bad offer him an additional asset.
That's quite a hot take to sneak in there, sir

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:11 pm

Prison_Mike wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:58 pm
abloom wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:30 pm
Well the question is whether or not you believe week 1 is an anomaly or not. Hey maybe we're seeing AB going to a dominant offense and going to put up a season like Moss's first with the pats.

Conly will get junk time points like the arob bortles days, Mike Davis will be the rb1 in Chicago, and picks are picks.

Meanwhile diggs is now in an offense where they are going to run 75% of the time and split targets with theilin and possibly a te. Then you have lockett who has somehow managed to score on an insanely high percentage of his catches. Can he keep this up? Maybe. But he's still on a team that should be run first.

While I wouldn't have made i the trade, I can certainly see a narrative where he comes out on top. If you really feel bad offer him an additional asset.
That's quite a hot take to sneak in there, sir
Yea everyone just kind of ignored that scalding hot take.
QB - DWatson(HOU)RWilson(SEA)Winston(TB)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - GOlsen(CAR)HHenry(SD)
K - Zurlien(LAR)GEORGIO TEVECHIO!!!
Def - JAGS 49ers
[rookie] ACalloway(CLE)NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)
2 2020 1st 1 2020 2nd
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby _yeti » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:10 pm

Ski mask ready wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:57 pm
this is solely a personal conscious thing
That name plus that quote lol
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QB: R. Wilson, M. Mariota, N. Foles, T. Taylor
RB: E. Elliot, M. Mack, C. Carson, J. McKinnon, T. Pollard, T. Yeldon, D. Foreman, Dex. Williams
WR: M. Evans, AB, A. Cooper, C. Davis, D. Pettis, D. Jackson, Q. Enunwa, J. Ross, K. Cole
TE: E. Ebron, D. Njoku, N. Fant, I. Thomas, ASJ
DL: A. Donald, D. Hunter, D. Buckner, N. Bosa, C. Jones
LB: B. Wagner, CJ Mosley, A. Ogletree, J. Collins
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