Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:59 am

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Not that its a 1 to 1 comparison. But all hope is not lost. Tyler Boyd had a sophomore season that was pretty weird with injury/motivation and inactive games.. he turned out fine.
Yea, that dude was practically free 2 years ago
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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby blemly » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:18 pm

Prison_Mike wrote:
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joeya2001 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:01 am
I just bought him, he was doing great towards the end of last season.
What did you buy for?

Someone offered me Pettis for L. Murray & a future 2nd which was an easy pass but I'm curious what he's going for
Have to imagine he's priced around a 3rd right now...which I would pay
I bought him as basically a throw in yesterday.

SF league I gave Cooks + 2nd + Carr for Rodgers + Pettis
Team 1: 10-team 15-keeper PPR:
QB: Cousins, Winston
RB: Zeke, DJ, Kerryon, Hill, Harris
WR: Hopkins, Allen, Hilton, M. Williams, Pettis, Washington, Hamilton, T. Smith, A. Brown, Boykin
TE: Kittle, Goedert

Team 2: 12-team Superflex 22-man 0.5PPR, 1.0PP1D:
QB: Darnold, Brissett, Manning, Jones
RB: KJ, Michel, Drake, Breida
WR: OBJ, Cooks, Golladay, Watkins, Pettis, J. Brown, Allison, Hardman, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Howard

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QB: Cousins, Rodgers, Rosen, Grier
RB: Henry, Sanders, Williams, Drake, Armstead, Ajayi
WR: Julio, AB :crazy:, OBJ, Golladay, Kirk, Kirkwood, Allison, Goodwin, Z. Jones
TE: Howard, Herndon, Gesicki

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QB: Watson, Garopollo, Haskins
RB: Mixon, Hines, Hill, Ajayi, J. Williams
WR: Hill, Cooks, Edelman, AJ Brown, Boykin, R. Anderson, Richardson, McLaurin, Cobb, D. Thomas
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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby alewilliam789 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:02 pm

Everybody shouldn’t be hoping for the next Boyd. I’m not saying it’s the sole reason, but Dante Pettis did not have good analytics behind his game. Barely a 50th percentile if either DR or BA. Didn’t dominate over his career. Slightly below average-average combine. He should not have been on anyone’s buy list considering his chances for top 24 success. Quite frankly shouldn’t have been a 2nd round nfl draft pick. He may still have a one big year or a couple big games, but at best I think he ends up being a good/consistent WR3 for your team.

Both Davante Adams and Boyd actually had pretty good analytics so we really need to stop comparing apples to oranges. Also need to stop ignoring BAs and DRs
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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:03 am

alewilliam789 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:02 pm
Also need to stop ignoring BAs and DRs
This. Pettis was considered a bust by these metrics which are incredibly accurate

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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby Titans95 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:52 am

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Lol Jackson for Pettis was me... I obviously am holding Pettis but you'd have to be blind to not be concerned
I never said the concern wasn't real, but quite frankly this is more confusion than concern for me. Shanahan's action's and words are contradictory. I don't understand how all of OTA's Shanahan and JG were praising Pettis and then training camp rolls around and its like Pettis is the worst WR in the room. Then they name him a starter and play him 2 snaps and then claim it was a groin injury that was hardly reported on. Definitely odd and something to monitor but most Pettis owners likely acquired him in the mid/late 2nd round of rookie drafts last season. That price is cheap enough to ride this out and see what you have, his landing spot and opportunity are as good as you could ever hope for.

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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby Kmani6 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:24 pm

Combine?! Dante Pettis is an crazy athlete just saying. 41 inch vertical, 6.73 3-cone, 4.47 40 and 129 in. broad jump. He's also an amazing route runner and is only 23 (same age as Deebo)... I'd say he has time.
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QB: Russel Wilson, Dak Prescott
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WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, OBJ , Antonio brown , D. Pettis, C. Kirk, C. Samuel, A.J. Brown, T. Mclaurin, A. Miller, D. Hamilton, D. Johnson
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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:37 pm

Kmani6 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:24 pm
Combine?! Dante Pettis is an crazy athlete just saying. 41 inch vertical, 6.73 3-cone, 4.47 40 and 129 in. broad jump. He's also an amazing route runner and is only 23 (same age as Deebo)... I'd say he has time.
The metrics that people were concerned with were breakout age and dominator rating, not his athleticism.

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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby Ice » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pm

Kmani6 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:24 pm
Combine?! Dante Pettis is an crazy athlete just saying. 41 inch vertical, 6.73 3-cone, 4.47 40 and 129 in. broad jump. He's also an amazing route runner and is only 23 (same age as Deebo)... I'd say he has time.
Don’t see him as amazing route runner at all. Rounds off a lot and gear changes are close to non existent Imo.

I avoided him in all drafts due to these issues.

Agree he has time but he doesn’t play very fast at this point. Single speed player. Think he is more a WR2 type on his team. Better DB’s will shut him down.

Just not the type of player I like for fantasy.

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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:15 pm

Ice wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pm
Kmani6 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:24 pm
Combine?! Dante Pettis is an crazy athlete just saying. 41 inch vertical, 6.73 3-cone, 4.47 40 and 129 in. broad jump. He's also an amazing route runner and is only 23 (same age as Deebo)... I'd say he has time.
Don’t see him as amazing route runner at all. Rounds off a lot and gear changes are close to non existent Imo.

I avoided him in all drafts due to these issues.

Agree he has time but he doesn’t play very fast at this point. Single speed player. Think he is more a WR2 type on his team. Better DB’s will shut him down.

Just not the type of player I like for fantasy.
I really don’t see how you can say he’s not a great route runner? That seems pretty cut and dry when watching him. He’s not necessarily as explosive or herky jerky as Tyreek or AB when he’s in space, but when running routes, he is electric. Gets instant separation from defenders, puts DBs on skates consistently, etc.

He may be a head case with teammates and coaches, he may not care enough about football to be great in the pros, and he may be a diva or mentally unstable. Who knows. We certainly can’t know.

But he is extremely polished as a route runner.
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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby Prison_Mike » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:25 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:15 pm
Ice wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pm
Kmani6 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:24 pm
Combine?! Dante Pettis is an crazy athlete just saying. 41 inch vertical, 6.73 3-cone, 4.47 40 and 129 in. broad jump. He's also an amazing route runner and is only 23 (same age as Deebo)... I'd say he has time.
Don’t see him as amazing route runner at all. Rounds off a lot and gear changes are close to non existent Imo.

I avoided him in all drafts due to these issues.

Agree he has time but he doesn’t play very fast at this point. Single speed player. Think he is more a WR2 type on his team. Better DB’s will shut him down.

Just not the type of player I like for fantasy.
I really don’t see how you can say he’s not a great route runner? That seems pretty cut and dry when watching him. He’s not necessarily as explosive or herky jerky as Tyreek or AB when he’s in space, but when running routes, he is electric. Gets instant separation from defenders, puts DBs on skates consistently, etc.

He may be a head case with teammates and coaches, he may not care enough about football to be great in the pros, and he may be a diva or mentally unstable. Who knows. We certainly can’t know.

But he is extremely polished as a route runner.
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Go watch his releases, they’re nasty

I agree with some of the criticisms of his game that have been mentioned in this thread. But there are certain aspects of his game that are undeniable, (such as his route running)

Bottom line, I think it just comes down to tempering expectations. There was a time where he was considered a young Diggs or Keenan by some

More realistic would be a low-end WR2 / high-end WR3. And at his current price/age/situation, I’ll gladly buy

There’s obviously a decent amount of concern and this situation has been pretty bizarre IMO, but I think it’s created a buy (very low) window

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Re: Dante Pettis.....WHAT IS HAPPENING

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:36 pm

Easy to put DBs on skates when you only play 2 snaps a game..... Just kidding... Holding for now
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Baker, D. Jones, Minshew, Luck (IR)
RB: Sony, D. Freeman, Penny, J. Jackson, Ito, Mostert
WR: Tyreek, Julio, Cooks, D.J. Moore, C. Davis, Hollywood, Washington, MVS, Parris, Preston, KeeSean
TE: Henry, Andrews
2020: 1, 2, 3...

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Baker, Cam, Rivers, Minshew, Foles (IR)
RB: CMC, Kerryon, Ingram, Penny, Hunt, J. Jackson J. Samuels, Gus, Ballage
WR: D.J. Moore, C. Davis, Mike Will, P. Campbell, Fuller, MVS, Pettis, Preston
TE: Henry, Hockenson, Andrews, Herndon
2020: 1, 1, 2,
2021: 1, 1, 2, 3


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