That's fine. That doesn't matter to me. The point is there is no new news on Gurley. That's the only point I'm trying to make.
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I think Henderson is a BUY at this point for a mid to late 1st. Rams have invested heavily in him, and that's inarguable.
Remember, the RB situation is more landing spot predicated than any other spot. And this dude landed with a great offense and a guy who is possibly on his last leg.
I think Henderson is a BUY at this point for a mid to late 1st. Rams have invested heavily in him, and that's inarguable.
Remember, the RB situation is more landing spot predicated than any other spot. And this dude landed with a great offense and a guy who is possibly on his last leg.
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This article was already posted, and again, nothing new in it. People are just having a "knee jerk" reaction to an old idea being repackaged.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:35 pm https://www.12up.com/posts/todd-gurley- ... dbtb151b0m
I think Henderson is a BUY at this point for a mid to late 1st. Rams have invested heavily in him, and that's inarguable.
Remember, the RB situation is more landing spot predicated than any other spot. And this dude landed with a great offense and a guy who is possibly on his last leg.
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Well regardless of the article I was Henderson as a buy right after draft. Hope he falls to my 2.02 but doubt it with Gurley owner at 1.10.
I can't see any reason they'd invest what they did for a backup if they either a) planned to use Gurley less to preserve him or b) plan to have a replacement when Gurley goes down. Either is not great for Gurley owners. I could argue A is worse (purely from fantasy) as then the points are being split but may not be worth starting both (like wouldn't be). Time will tell.
I can't see any reason they'd invest what they did for a backup if they either a) planned to use Gurley less to preserve him or b) plan to have a replacement when Gurley goes down. Either is not great for Gurley owners. I could argue A is worse (purely from fantasy) as then the points are being split but may not be worth starting both (like wouldn't be). Time will tell.
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I think Henderson is a committee back. As long as you understand that, he's a good pick. He'll probably never be a workhorse, but he can catch and bang off chunk plays with good blocking. I only have Gurley in 1 cheap league, but I fully hope and expect Gurley's workload to decrease. Henderson would be a good bestball guy, and flex option in the future, I think. I think Gurley will definitely lose some touches, but will continue to be heavily involved, and get all the goal line work as usual. I think they would be best suited to run Gurley a little less and continue to use him in the passing game. Give Henderson 8 carries a game and a few passes too.TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:54 pm Well regardless of the article I was Henderson as a buy right after draft. Hope he falls to my 2.02 but doubt it with Gurley owner at 1.10.
I can't see any reason they'd invest what they did for a backup if they either a) planned to use Gurley less to preserve him or b) plan to have a replacement when Gurley goes down. Either is not great for Gurley owners. I could argue A is worse (purely from fantasy) as then the points are being split but may not be worth starting both (like wouldn't be). Time will tell.
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Absolutely correct, I agree with everything you've said.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:13 pmI think Henderson is a committee back. As long as you understand that, he's a good pick. He'll probably never be a workhorse, but he can catch and bang off chunk plays with good blocking. I only have Gurley in 1 cheap league, but I fully hope and expect Gurley's workload to decrease. Henderson would be a good bestball guy, and flex option in the future, I think. I think Gurley will definitely lose some touches, but will continue to be heavily involved, and get all the goal line work as usual. I think they would be best suited to run Gurley a little less and continue to use him in the passing game. Give Henderson 8 carries a game and a few passes too.TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:54 pm Well regardless of the article I was Henderson as a buy right after draft. Hope he falls to my 2.02 but doubt it with Gurley owner at 1.10.
I can't see any reason they'd invest what they did for a backup if they either a) planned to use Gurley less to preserve him or b) plan to have a replacement when Gurley goes down. Either is not great for Gurley owners. I could argue A is worse (purely from fantasy) as then the points are being split but may not be worth starting both (like wouldn't be). Time will tell.
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that's the problem with the media today. one of them speculates on a subject then they all start running articles on that speculation like it's a fact. they're all idiots.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:05 pmHe's not reporting anything, though. He's giving an opinion on the subject. OBJ getting traded away doesn't mean that he is right about everything, either. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. He's not been consistently ahead on things that happen, he got that one right. Could have just been a guess, too. I have Gurley in 1 league, and got him cheap, but it drives me nuts with people act like something that is old is new. Nothing is new here. He's saying there is concern about Gurley's knee. Not new. This is literally just his opinion on the subject.joeya2001 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:02 pmGlazer also was the first to report OBJ was being traded when everyone refuted that.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 7:59 pm
What news? There is zero news about him. Literally nothing new is being reported. A guys opinion on the situation. That's it. One guy makes an opinion on the situation, which is not new, and it gets passed around and around. That's how they keep an idea that is not new seeming new when nothing is going on.
“Nope, it’s not overblown. I think the biggest test will be what happens early in the season. If he runs and it doesn’t blow up and the Rams are able to use him as a workhorse, then a lot of those concerns will go away,” Glazer wrote. “If not, they’re going to have to get a little creative. They would be wise to be prepared because the knee has gone through a lot from college to now, so they’ve got to brace for it swelling up again.”
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Here is an article from March discussing the same thing. They are just rehashing the same ideas and stories over and over again during the down period of the NFL. This happens all the time.
and a bit of information for glazer and his ilk, the rams don't want to use gurley as a workhorse. that's how all the problems started last season, his overuse after brown went down and his knee not being able to cope with it. henderson will be 1b to gurley's 1a, with some malcolm brown sprinkled in. they will manage gurley's touches to keep him fresh for the playoffs so the days of him being the #1rb are over. draft and trade accordingly.
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This so-called Darrell Henderson thread is too much about Gurley. The fact is Henderson landed in a great situation for immediate production.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:35 pm https://www.12up.com/posts/todd-gurley- ... dbtb151b0m
I think Henderson is a BUY at this point for a mid to late 1st. Rams have invested heavily in him, and that's inarguable.
Remember, the RB situation is more landing spot predicated than any other spot. And this dude landed with a great offense and a guy who is possibly on his last leg.
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The OP literally titled his first post: Does Darrell Henderson scare Todd Gurley owners?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pmThis so-called Darrell Henderson thread is too much about Gurley. The fact is Henderson landed in a great situation for immediate production.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:35 pm https://www.12up.com/posts/todd-gurley- ... dbtb151b0m
I think Henderson is a BUY at this point for a mid to late 1st. Rams have invested heavily in him, and that's inarguable.
Remember, the RB situation is more landing spot predicated than any other spot. And this dude landed with a great offense and a guy who is possibly on his last leg.
Then asked this question: As a Gurley owner in plenty of leagues I am curious what everyone thinks.
That was the original post in it's entirety.
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I'm not quite sure how great Henderson's situation is though. I see him garnering about 8 to 14 touches a game as a compliment to Gurley. He might have some value as a flex play but that's about it. Even if Gurley were to go down, Henderson would still be in a committee with Malcolm Brown.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pmThis so-called Darrell Henderson thread is too much about Gurley. The fact is Henderson landed in a great situation for immediate production.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:35 pm https://www.12up.com/posts/todd-gurley- ... dbtb151b0m
I think Henderson is a BUY at this point for a mid to late 1st. Rams have invested heavily in him, and that's inarguable.
Remember, the RB situation is more landing spot predicated than any other spot. And this dude landed with a great offense and a guy who is possibly on his last leg.
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Yes it was, and I thought that was a disservice to Henderson. When he finally gets his own thread, it turns back to Gurley. He is not Gurley's shadow with no independent value. It's not unreasonable to consider him a committee back with RB1 potential if Gurley goes down.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:39 pmThe OP literally titled his first post: Does Darrell Henderson scare Todd Gurley owners?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pmThis so-called Darrell Henderson thread is too much about Gurley. The fact is Henderson landed in a great situation for immediate production.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:35 pm https://www.12up.com/posts/todd-gurley- ... dbtb151b0m
I think Henderson is a BUY at this point for a mid to late 1st. Rams have invested heavily in him, and that's inarguable.
Remember, the RB situation is more landing spot predicated than any other spot. And this dude landed with a great offense and a guy who is possibly on his last leg.
Then asked this question: As a Gurley owner in plenty of leagues I am curious what everyone thinks.
That was the original post in it's entirety.
At the very least, I'd expect a RB with his college production landing in this potent offense with only a one-knee Gurley blocking him to generate more positive discussion.
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I'm saying if CJ Anderson can give RB1 numbers Henderson sure can.
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We don't even know the severity of Gurley's issues, though. You talk about disservice, but you are talking like an elite talent at RB in Gurley can't play football anymore with the "one knee Gurley" statement. He hasn't had his leg amputated. I'm just commenting on the lines of the thread the OP started, that's what is expected when a thread is started. We deviate sometimes, but are supposed to keep it within the context of the original thread posters questions and idea for the thread. It's going to be hard to have a thread about a rookie running back going to a situation in which the premier back over the last few years currently resides and discuss them and their situations independently. Henderson's production and future over the next 4 years are directly tied to the health of Todd Gurley.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 11:51 pmYes it was, and I thought that was a disservice to Henderson. When he finally gets his own thread, it turns back to Gurley. He is not Gurley's shadow with no independent value. It's not unreasonable to consider him a committee back with RB1 potential if Gurley goes down.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:39 pmThe OP literally titled his first post: Does Darrell Henderson scare Todd Gurley owners?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pm
This so-called Darrell Henderson thread is too much about Gurley. The fact is Henderson landed in a great situation for immediate production.
Then asked this question: As a Gurley owner in plenty of leagues I am curious what everyone thinks.
That was the original post in it's entirety.
At the very least, I'd expect a RB with his college production landing in this potent offense with only a one-knee Gurley blocking him to generate more positive discussion.
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Definitely possible, but doubtful over a full season unless Gurley goes down. CJA put up RB1 numbers in a 2 game span, not over a full season or any great length of time. He also did it against bottom tier teams who were out of any sort of contention in Arizona and SF. Henderson also does not really profile as a guy who is going to get 25 touches a game like CJA did in those games, so he would need to maximize his touches and have the Rams utilize his receiving ability to get those PPR points. If Gurley stays relatively healthy, Henderson may be capable of giving flex type nunmbers in year 1. It will be interesting to see how the Rams deploy him.
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If you were smart enough to grab Henderson in the 2nd, isn't this the time to see if you can get a mid 2020 first and cash in? He's a guy with a good skill set, but one that projects to being a committee back, who needs everything to break a certain way in order for him to be the starter (Gurley hurt, no other backs signed, no injuries himself, no challenge from Brown who got resigned, living up to his own playing potential). Of course you *might* be wrong and he turns into the starter, but more likely than not you'll be getting a chance to draft a better talent next year.
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