4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby khaos337 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:51 am

Servo wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 12:00 pm
Hottoddies wrote:
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QB draft spots in my superflex league:

1.01 Kyler Murray
1.07 Dwayne Haskins
1.11 Drew Lock
2.04 Daniel Jones
4.06 Will Grier
4.12 Ryan Finley

The team that drafted both Daniel Jones and Will Grier may have been desperate since he only had one starting QB on his roster.
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1.04 Murray
1.10 Haskins
To Be Continued
Murray 1.04 in SF!? :wtf:
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QB: Lamar Jackson, Jameis Winston, Kyler, Greir, Taylor
RB: Fournette, Gurley, Conner, Devonta Freeman, Duke Johnson, D. Washington
WR: Hill, Ridley, M. Williams, Kirk, Gallup, D. Parker, Tre'Quan, Stills, D. Thomas, Harmon, Perriman, M. Johnson
TE: Njoku, Irv Smith, Ian Thomas, Everett, Dissly, Knox, Brate
K: Gay
Def/ST: NE, SEA

2020: 2, 3, 3, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5

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10 Team, .5 PPR, Devy, IDP, SF

QB: Mahomes, Wilson, Allen, Bridgewater, Rudolph, Rosen
RB: Jacobs, Sanders, Singletary, Guice, Hines, Samuels
WR: Michael Thomas, Evans, C. Samuel, Sutton, Bebe, D. Samuel, Quinn, Isabella, Cain, Boykin
TE: Hockenson, Herndon, Goedert, Burton, Fant
K: McManus
DL: Hunter, Garrett, Ferrell
LB: Devin Bush, Dion Jones, Alexander, Bush, Landry
DB: Peppers, Savage, Thornhill, Simmons
TAXI: Haskins, Stidham, Grier, Gaskin, AJ Brown, Campbell, Hurd, P. Williams, Irv Smith, Sternberger

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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby pvillebiker » Thu May 16, 2019 6:36 pm

QB's in my SF, TE-premium draft, last Thursday, May 9:

1.02 - K Murray
1.06 - D Haskins
2.01 - D Lock
2.08 - Daniel Jones
4.03 - R Finley
4.10 - W Grier
5.03 - J Stidham

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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby schmity81 » Sat May 18, 2019 8:56 pm

DRAFT RESULTS:
1. Murray
2. Jacobs
3. Haskins (me) ***Thought i was getting Jacobs here
4. Nkeal
5. Lock
6. Daniel Jones
7. M. Sanders
8. AJ Brown
9. D. Montgomery
10. Metcalf (me)
11. M. Hardman
12. P. Campbell
13. Hockenson
14. Hollywood
15. D. Singletary
16. Fant (me)

12 team Superflex, standard scoring.

I was right in my prediction that 4 QBs would go before pick 7!!!

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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby blemly » Sun May 19, 2019 6:45 am

My friend recently took Lock 1.09 and Jones 1.11, but he has Flacco and Manning as his only two QBs (recent dispersal) and has an otherwise solid team. So I guess in that specific sense I could understand reaching.
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QB: Cousins, Winston
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RB: Henry, Sanders, Guice, Penny, Armstead
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TE: OJH, Herndon, Gesicki
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QB: Watson, Garopollo, Haskins
RB: Mixon, Jacobs, Mack, Hill
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby diehard4life » Sun May 19, 2019 2:45 pm

My draft is June 1st: 12 team, Superflex, 1/2 PPR scoring—and I know that the 1.1 pick will be Murray because the owner traded into that pick to get him.

I traded out of that pick to get multiple no.1s in 2020 and Josh Rosen, LOL.

The word on the street pre-draft is also that 3-4 quarterbacks will go in round 1. I traded out of the first entirely because the talent is not there worthy of the round this year overall. I could get as big of a risk/reward in rd2, and boost my 2020 position in the process.

Not one QB in this draft is worthy of a first round pick post-draft, not even in a Superflex system. This draft has first round talent at TE, and a couple of WRs may be worthy of the position. It is a historically poor offensive year for rookie talent.

Back to QBs, Matt Waldman had only Will Grier as a top QB prospect before the draft, and even that changed after the draft for the worse. Grier was said to be the QB 4-6 if he had been part of the 2018 grouping. The only one comparably talented to that class.

Daniel Jones got failing marks in accuracy in all statistical categories from Waldman, among other negatives. He is said to be a product of the old school QB thinking of NFL execs, and the tape does not match the measurables.
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby Servo » Mon May 20, 2019 6:57 am

10 TM, 2QB, Non-PPR

1.01 Murray
1.04 Haskins
2.05 Jones
2.06 Lock
4.01 Grier
4.05 Stidham
5.05 Finley
5.06 Stick

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12 TM, SF, .5PPR, No K/DST
1.04 Murray
1.10 Haskins
2.09 Jones
2.12 Lock
4.01 Stidham
4.06 Grier

In sum, on the average, you're probably seeing Murray and Haskins go within the Top 5 picks...and then Jones + Lock may fall deeper into the 2nd round at the latest.
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby GronkosaurusRex » Mon May 27, 2019 3:54 pm

SF draft completed, QB results:
1.01 Murray
2.04 Haskins
3.01 Lock
3.10 Jones

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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue May 28, 2019 12:38 pm

GronkosaurusRex wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 3:54 pm
SF draft completed, QB results:
1.01 Murray
2.04 Haskins
3.01 Lock
3.10 Jones
Wow, I don't even like Haskins or Jones that much, but those guys are steals at 2.04 and 3.10.
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby jwconnel » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:12 pm

Completed superflex draft, 12 teams, 5 rounds:
1.01 Murray
1.06 Haskins
2.03 Jones
2.10 Lock
4.08 Grier
5.05 Stidham

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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby tom14cat14 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:30 pm

So I get Jones is not a very highly touted prospect (I have been against him until recently) But I am not arrogant enough to think I know more then professional scouts. They take him at 1.06 (even if it is the NYG) I have to give that some pretty strong consideration. Of course they get these wrong all the time but they also get them right too. And it is much easier to replace your chance at getting a solid WR then a solid QB.
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby Servo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:27 am

QB is a position that I follow analytics scouting religiously because good QBs were normally "good" in college.

Analytics would have steered you towards: Goff, Watson, Mayfield, Darnold and even someone like Dak Prescott (although the NFL didn't feel the same) and helped you steer clear or be wary of guys like: Paxton Lynch, Bortles, Hackenberg, Kizer, etc.

Allen and Jackson - too early to tell, but we'll learn a lot more in 2019....both had issues throwing the ball in college and their rushing abilities have masked people's concern with their long-term outlook. Both had subpar high school and collegiate production.

Rosen - above average analytics but poor play + instability, he could find himself relegated to backup only duties after only 2 years.

Wentz - FCS, so he was a bit of a wild card.

Nick Mullens - analytics pointed to him being someone who could play QB at the next level, now, like Prescott, things broke his way to make it happen but the dude showed a hell of a lot more than Beathard.

ALL IN ALL, I'm not wasting a premium pick on guys with bad profiles, which both Lock and Jones have. Teams make QB mistakes all the time, the fact the NYG passed up all 5 guys last year for Daniel Jones is amazing. Granted, when you compare the long-term effectiveness of a WR or RB...might you be better off taking a QB instead? Sure, drafting enough DGB's or Kevin White's or Corey Coleman's can cause that.

If you already have a solid QB foundation and want some depth? Fine, take Jones or Lock when the value is right but if I'm hurting at the position, I'd rather trade for someone I know will be around for a while.
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby lanemitchell96 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:25 am

We did a startup this year, all of us first time SF players, and the QBs went like this in our rookie draft:

1.02 Kyler Murray (me)
1.05 Dwayne Haskins
4.03 Drew Lock
4.04 Will Grier
4.08 Daniel Jones
5.03 Gardner Minshew
5.07 Jarrett Stidham (me)

Definitely an odd draft in terms of valuing QBs...

*Funny story - I was in talks to trade up to 1.01 from 1.02 to get Murray... I offered 1.02 and a 2021 1st OR 1.02 and one of my depth pieces. He (correctly) assumed I wanted Murray but he decided to turn down the deal and took Jacobs. Even after I told him I wanted Murray and only had 2 QB on my roster at that point :lol: :lol:
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WR: Godwin, DJM, Sutton, Chark, Gallup, Boyd, CSamuel, Hurd, Parris, Preston, Isabella
TE: Engram, Higbee, Goedert, Hurst, Jonnu
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby mmass » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:55 pm

I just drafted Lock 3.02 pick 22
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr1
Goff Cousins Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Boyd Lockett Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Parker Boykins Harmon
Waller Njuku
Pick 1.11


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Wentz Rothlisberger Dak Taylor Brisset
Zeke Cook Mixon Hyde Breida Edmonds Gio
M.Thomas Edelman Mclurin J.Landry Kirk
Hooper Goedart


SF3 - Yr 3
Watson Foles Menshew Brissett
Barkley Gordon Ja.Williams
OBJ Hopkins Evans Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Howard Smith Warring
Pick 1.03


SF4 - Orphan Year 1
Dak Jones Brisset Taylor Keenum
Singletary Edmonds
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Harry Washington D.Jax Boykins Hamilton Harmon K.Johnson Perriman Pettis Hurd
Andrews Goedart
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CMC DJ Mixon Hyde Ja.Williams Cohen
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Re: 4 QBs taken before 1.07?!?!

Postby snuffalupicus » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:44 am

The hate has gone too far for Jones. Your mistake if you pass him up. He’s worth a later 1st imo. If the Giants go 1-6 he’ll start the rest of the way. Reports say he’s looking good too.
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