Russell Wilson - Seahawk? Or maybe not..

[Phaded]

That report actually came out before Mathieu; as the Mathieu tweet was a response to that.

[bigblue]

He isn’t going anywhere, but if any team had the amp on the draft to do it, it’s the giants.

Would their 2 first round picks do it? Probably not, but if so this is a no brainer, even though they need to give him a huge contract.

What gets interesting is if this year’s 2 firsts and 2nd or 2 firsts and next year’s first gets it done. It would have to be something huge like this to get the Seahawks to consider.

I think he makes any team an instant playoff team (the Seahawks team without him is not an every season playoff team). I would do if either of those 2 offers gets it done.

[Bot101]

As long as we’re just wildly speculating:

Giants get Russell Wilson

Seahawks get Josh Rosen, 1.06, 1.17, 4.01

Cardinals get 1.21, 5.21

Where does Gettleman get traded to?

The Cowboys hopefully. They are making smart decisions (like acquiring Amari Cooper) and that needs to stop!

You need to hush your mouth! Ive suffered through JJ since I was a kid. Now that he finally isnt calling the shots I can enjoy and not second guess every single move they make. How bout them Cowboys!?!

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If the price is as big as mentioned above, I doubt the Giants pay it as they would be better off coughing up the price to to grab Murray.

[ninotoreS]

Hawks are kidding themselves, wanting Wilson to offer them a discount. Wilson is on a Canton bound track, considering he's a 6x Pro Bowler and Super Bowl champion at just age 30. If Hawks won't pay him, someone else will.

Brady has given the Pats a discount for years, but no other elite QB in the modern era has done that.

[Cult of Dionysus]

Hawks are kidding themselves, wanting Wilson to offer them a discount. Wilson is on a Canton bound track, considering he's a 6x Pro Bowler and Super Bowl champion at just age 30. If Hawks won't pay him, someone else will.

Brady has given the Pats a discount for years, but no other elite QB in the modern era has done that.

They can treat any other position like this, but not QB and not Wilson.

[ericanadian]

Hawks are kidding themselves, wanting Wilson to offer them a discount. Wilson is on a Canton bound track, considering he's a 6x Pro Bowler and Super Bowl champion at just age 30. If Hawks won't pay him, someone else will.

Brady has given the Pats a discount for years, but no other elite QB in the modern era has done that.

Seahawks management wants to be the Pats and think giving Wilson a chance after drafting him in the 3rd is the same as Brady getting a shot after getting drafted in the 6th. I think the Seahawks truly view it as giving Wilson a shot no one else would and fell he owes them.

[OhCruelestRanter]

If the price is as big as mentioned above, I doubt the Giants pay it as they would be better off coughing up the price to to grab Murray.

Sure, but by crafting this sentence you’re already way beyond what an idiot like Gettleman could come up with on his best day.

The craziest part is that the reason I think the Giants wouldn’t do this is to protect Eli’s feelings.

[bigblue]

If the price is as big as mentioned above, I doubt the Giants pay it as they would be better off coughing up the price to to grab Murray.

It depends how the giants feel about Murray. The sentence above assumes that Murray is the next elite qb, which is far from a guarantee.

[FantasyDumDum]

If I'm the Giants I try to get Rosen for a 2nd, have him for 3-4 more years of rookie contract, and build around him. It would be risky but offers the highest upside of all scenarios by a long shot. If he matures into a solid top 12 QB in the next 1-2 years they would be saving a TON of draft capital and cap space to use to make a serious run in 2020-2022. The problem with Russ is he would cost a bundle of picks and a lot of cap space, leaving this already barren roster just hopeless. And Murray would be cheap for 4 years but would cost them 3 of their 1st/2nd round picks to acquire him. That's why I would gamble on Rosen for (relatively)cheap

[ninotoreS]

Seahawks management wants to be the Pats and think giving Wilson a chance after drafting him in the 3rd is the same as Brady getting a shot after getting drafted in the 6th. I think the Seahawks truly view it as giving Wilson a shot no one else would and fell he owes them.

At this point, I think the Hawks owe Wilson more than he owes them. Absolutely they deserve credit for giving him a chance. And I think six Pro Bowl seasons, two NFC championships, and one ring demonstrates he's payed them back for that already.

Then there's the salary cap increase that happened this offseason to consider. Teams right now have more room than ever to pay their superstars, and the Hawks currently have 100 million in cap space for 2020. They're not even top heavy here in '19 -- for example, the Hawks 4th highest paid player is Baldwin, who's probably a cut or restructure candidate next offseason, and their 5th highest paid player (Chancellor) retired last year. Seattle can afford to pay Wilson, and he and his agent know it.

[Ice]

Seahawks management wants to be the Pats and think giving Wilson a chance after drafting him in the 3rd is the same as Brady getting a shot after getting drafted in the 6th. I think the Seahawks truly view it as giving Wilson a shot no one else would and fell he owes them.

At this point, I think the Hawks owe Wilson more than he owes them. Absolutely they deserve credit for giving him a chance. And I think six Pro Bowl seasons, two NFC championships, and one ring demonstrates he's payed them back for that already.

Then there's the salary cap increase that happened this offseason to consider. Teams right now have more room than ever to pay their superstars, and the Hawks currently have 100 million in cap space for 2020. They're not even top heavy here in '19 -- for example, the Hawks 4th highest paid player is Baldwin, who's probably a cut or restructure candidate next offseason, and their 5th highest paid player (Chancellor) retired last year. Seattle can afford to pay Wilson, and he and his agent know it.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if he is traded. He is in the last year of his contract that was already restructured twice. His cap hit is 25 plus million so not a huge reason to give him a new contract today. The team has a F tag available next season and Wilson is due 17 million under contract this year. Again, no real rush for the team especially given they look to be in a soft rebuild.

Wilson is a very good system QB but the price for elite QB's is getting pretty crazy and could handcuff teams. Trading him helps reset salary cap for them and will provide assets to build on.

Wilson threw about 250 fewer times than the top passing team. Wilson was in the bottom 3rd of passing attempts. Great for his system but more replaceable in the era of a short passing game.

[Oddball456]

So, as this relates to fantasy. If Wilson ends up on the Giants does that help or hurt his fantasy output? Any other teams seem likely to land him at this point besides the Giants or staying in SEA? Since the Hawks like to run so much, and their WR core isn't anything special, I would think almost anywhere else he ends up would be neutral at worst, and likely better.

[Ice]

So, as this relates to fantasy. If Wilson ends up on the Giants does that help or hurt his fantasy output? Any other teams seem likely to land him at this point besides the Giants or staying in SEA? Since the Hawks like to run so much, and their WR core isn't anything special, I would think almost anywhere else he ends up would be neutral at worst, and likely better.

I agree.
Wilson has a unique and consistent game. Don't see a regression anywhere and "likely better" would be a solid bet.

[IBall2]

He's going down the Kirk Cousins path. He'll play on the franchise tag for 2 years then test the market. I don't think Seattle has the balls to trade him, which will end up hurting them in the long run.