Darnold worth in SF

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Darnold worth in SF

Postby Lordchay » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:57 am

I'm in a 14 team superflex and this upcoming year is going to my second in the league. I hadn't done SF before this league so still trying to figure out where I evaluate the QB talent pool.

I'm trying to figure out what Darnold's value should be relative to rookie picks. I have an offer on the table for 1.04 for him and in comparison I took him last year at 1.08 so that is already some profit on his value.

If I did that, I would be able to nab one of these four: Metcalf, Haskins, Murray, Harry.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby Brownies4life » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:01 am

Darnold is worth the 1.01 plus in this draft easily. At least could get 1.01 and a high second/early first for him
Superflex, Full PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 3flex 1 Sflx
QB: Dak, Wentz, Daniel Jones, Nick Mullens
RB: Royce Freeman, Penny, Carson, M. Brown, Foreman,
WR: Evans, Pettis, Metcalf, Harry, Mclaurin, Harmon, D.J. Chark, Agholor, Quinn, Gabriel, MVS, Justin Watson, Kirkwood, Cobb
TE: Fant, RSJ, Dan Arnold, Gerald Everett
Picks 2020: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
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Superflex, PPR, 12 team, 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 flex 1 Sflx
QB: Brady, Kyler Murray, Flacco
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, AP, Chris Warren, Bruce Anderson,
WR: Evans, Adams, AJ Green, Miller, Allison, DeMarcus Robinson, Patrick, Kirkwood, Hurd
TE: OJ Howard, Dissly, Waller
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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby Madadamus » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:04 am

I don’t think he’s worth the 1.01. 1.04 seems fair to me.
12 Team PPR Dynasty - DLFS
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Burrow, M. Stafford, C. Wentz
RB: S. Barkley, D. Swift, J.K. Dobbins, C. Edwards-Helaire, R. Penny, G. Edwards, K. Drake
WR: T. Higgins, M. Evans, B. Aiyuk, C. Watson, K. Toney, M. Thomas, C. Ridley, C. Davis, J. Reagor
TE: D. Waller, E. Engram, H. Hurst, D. Njoku, G. Dulich, J. Akins
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd (mid), 3rd, 4th, 4th (mid)

12 Team PPR Dynasty
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Herbert, M. Stafford, J. Winston, D. Lock, M. Mariota, J. Stidham, R. Fitzpatrick
RB: C. McCaffrey, A. Kamara, E. Elliott, J. Dobbin, J. Mixon, A. Mattison, J. White, L. Bell
WR: D. Moore, J. Jeudy, O. Beckham Jr., C. Claypool, C. Davis. D. Parker, L. Fitzgerald, B. Perriman, W. Snead
TE: E. Engram, C. Kmet, C. Herndon, K. Warring
2021 Picks: 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10

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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby bigbuck22 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:30 am

When you compare Darnold to the rookies you mentioned, I think Darnold is ahead of all of them. 1.1 and a 2nd seems fair. I'm not sure I would be moving him for that though. He's a year in and flashed nice potential last year with very few weapons. Lots of question marks with the rookies.

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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby petebusey » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:18 pm

I am going to pile on here with the thinking he is worth more than 1.04. Though this could depend on league scoring and starter requirements for me.
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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:43 pm

1.04 seems fair. looking like haskins/murray/lock/metcalf/brown
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:44 pm

darnold and 1.01 went back to back in a start im in ...14 team SF haha
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby briank » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:45 pm

Your logic is faulty. It assumes he hasn't gained value since last year. It also assumes that each pick in every draft carries the same respective value. Neither of those things are true in my opinion. I'd rather Darnold than anyone from this draft in a superflex.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:07 pm

Darnold = Murray = 1.01/1.02
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby nicktahoes » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:12 pm

Lordchay wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:57 am I'm in a 14 team superflex and this upcoming year is going to my second in the league. I hadn't done SF before this league so still trying to figure out where I evaluate the QB talent pool.

I'm trying to figure out what Darnold's value should be relative to rookie picks. I have an offer on the table for 1.04 for him and in comparison I took him last year at 1.08 so that is already some profit on his value.

If I did that, I would be able to nab one of these four: Metcalf, Haskins, Murray, Harry.

What do you guys think?
I would rather have Darnold. Since it is 14 teams I assume the QBs are very very sparce. There is not guarantee you get a QB at 1.04 so if you trade Darnold and miss out on one you are hurting even more at QB. Keep Darnold.

Plus looking at your signature, you only have 2 QBs. Definitely do not trade him.
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PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex x2
QBs: Lawrence, Stafford, Bunch of backups
RBs: Ekeler, Kamara, Achane, Dillon, Kelley, Moss, Javonte Williams,Jamaal Williams
WRs: Adams, Hopkins, Waddle, Kirk, JSN, Boyd, OBJ, Hyatt, Osborn
TEs: Kelce, Hockenson, Taysom,


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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby Hottoddies » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:41 pm

briank wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:45 pm Your logic is faulty. It assumes he hasn't gained value since last year. It also assumes that each pick in every draft carries the same respective value. Neither of those things are true in my opinion. I'd rather Darnold than anyone from this draft in a superflex.
This post is spot on. Starting QBs in a 14 team SF are gold, and young ones are worth even more. Every year that Darnold starts is a year that you don't have to spend a high draft pick on a QB that may or may not hit. That's pure gold my man.
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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:50 pm

1.03-1.05

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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby abloom » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:57 pm

Prior to NFL draft would not trade darnold for any single pick. After draft if Murray and/or Haskins lands in a good spot I'd think a bit about trading for the 1.01 or 1.02 + something, however I have more faith in darnold than Murray or hashkins
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Tm 5
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Tm 6
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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby tpsv86 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:18 am

QB’s are gold in a SF league. They are worth even more in a 14 team league. I would want more than an early 1st.

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Re: Darnold worth in SF

Postby crip7300 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:44 pm

Last year's class had better 1st round talent imo, especially at QB and RB, so I don't think you can look at it as a profit from one draft to the next, especially it only being 4 spots, plus I took him at the 1.05 last year in my Superflex league and thought I got a steal, as he was ranked as my 1.03. That being said, I would definitely need more than the 1.01 to move Darnold, but I'm also very hesitant on Murray.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz

Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat

Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift

WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant


Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle


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