Do you hate Winston

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Do you hate Winston?

Poll ended at Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:26 am

Yes
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No
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Total votes: 67

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Do you hate Winston

Postby Pullo Vision » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:26 am

I know this community hates Winston
Simple question. Do YOU hate Winston? Use whatever basis you normally do for player valuations- physical abilities, draft capital, off field stuff, how well he eats a W, whatever.

I'm calling bull on this point, and the wider idea that people at a certain forum have group think. Posts won't prove that as easily as a poll would.
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby Metriculous » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:30 am

I think Jameis is the most CRIMINALLY undervalued dynasty QB entering this year. I am buying him wherever he is available at a discount.

Any "expert" that is telling you what TB is "about" to do to him is up to their ears in fecal matter.
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby joeya2001 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:31 am

Does he hate me?
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby gopackgo » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:48 am

Metriculous wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:30 am I think Jameis is the most CRIMINALLY undervalued dynasty QB entering this year. I am buying him wherever he is available at a discount.

Any "expert" that is telling you what TB is "about" to do to him is up to their ears in fecal matter.
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby moishetreats » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:56 am

Never met the guy. Hard for me to hate him.
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby Servo » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:02 am

To some degree, Winston is a turd. Dude's decision making has always been questionable stemming from his days at FSU and in the NFL.

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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby mullmania » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:07 am

Are we talking real life NFL qb or fantasy qb?

Real life, aside from the big arm, I want nothing to do with Winston. Poor decision making on and off the field.

Don’t thin he’s a real leader in any way.


For fantasy? Sure fire him up.

Elite supporting cast probably the best in the league if they got a true 3rd down running back.

They will be among the leaders in passing attempts and yards again likely.

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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby joeya2001 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:22 am

mullmania wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:07 am Are we talking real life NFL qb or fantasy qb?

Real life, aside from the big arm, I want nothing to do with Winston. Poor decision making on and off the field.

Don’t thin he’s a real leader in any way.


For fantasy? Sure fire him up.

Elite supporting cast probably the best in the league if they got a true 3rd down running back.

They will be among the leaders in passing attempts and yards again likely.
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:27 am

Fantasy , I love him for his current value actually.
Let's be honest all this talk of how the Bucs should cut him or trade him or do whatever to move on from him, it;s not gonna happen unless his play drops off a cliff or he really, and I mean really messes up.
While he might not be the best IRL qb, he's still average to above average going into only his fourth year and for fantasy racks up the yardage

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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby Valhalla » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:32 am

I suppose I'll ask a different question. Would you hate to see your favorite NFL team with Winston at the helm? I would.
I don't hate "him," but I do hate the idea of having him lead a team I follow.

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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby joeya2001 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:37 am

well I guess it depends your team, I'm a packers fan, so yes id hate the down grade.

if I were lets say a Cardinals fan, Bills, Broncos, Redskins, Dolphins, Bangles.

Then no I would not hate the guy.
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby skip » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:39 am

I don't "hate" him. I do think his value may finally be aligning closer to his production. Despite never having anything higher than a QB2 season (14th his best finish), he's been continually viewed as a top 10 QB due to age and upside. For me to consider moving him into that tier, I need to see top 10 numbers and they just aren't there. I don't play the rotation game with my QBs. I want a starter I know I can count on every week. I'm still waiting to see that from Winston. Right now, he's a backup for a fantasy team.
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:39 am

Going off IRL considerations
Considering my favorite teams are first the Dolphins and second the Giants, I would love for the Bucs to move on from Winston and either of them to pick him up

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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby joeya2001 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:43 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:39 am Going off IRL considerations
Considering my favorite teams are first the Dolphins and second the Giants, I would love for the Bucs to move on from Winston and either of them to pick him up
Yes I forgot to include the Giants lol
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Re: Do you hate Winston

Postby dm1129 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:53 am

It is important to keep in mind that there has been an influx of QB talent into the league recently. The dynamic of having at least a third of the league desperate for a QB does not exist currently. I am not suggesting all 32 teams definitely have their 'franchise' QB, but the situation is not as dire as it was a couple of years ago. Because of this, I think it allows the TB front office more freedom in regard to signing Winston long term. The prospect of Winston not being re-signed should not be viewed as an impossibility. I believe it is likely they will franchise him a la Cousins in 2020 rather than sign him long term or possibly even move on after 2019. A guy like Teddy Bridgewater(among others) is waiting for an opportunity not to mention QBs entering the league in the next two seasons, it will be interesting to watch unfold.


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