Bears offense aside, Miller doesnt take advantage of his opportunitiesOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:49 amIt didn't look bad last week. I've bought and sold Miller twice now.
Talent isn't the issue. That Bears offense just can't sustain 2 fantasy WRs consistently.
Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years
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Yeah, it won't be long before Mooney takes over the WR2 job if he hasn't already.captain howdy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:01 amBears offense aside, Miller doesnt take advantage of his opportunitiesOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:49 amIt didn't look bad last week. I've bought and sold Miller twice now.
Talent isn't the issue. That Bears offense just can't sustain 2 fantasy WRs consistently.
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I had him everywhere that had a taxi squad; now the question is can I roster him in my shallower leagues where he's still on the waiver-wire.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:47 am Darnell Mooney is my favorite late round flier/post-draft add right now. Not a perfect player, but he broke out early, he has wheels, and there's opportunity in Chicago.
I really don't want to get hyperbolic, but there's another 5'10" WR from a small school who ran a sub 4.4 that was drafted at the 28th pick in the 5th round that broke out under Matt Nagy.
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I was surprised he got drafted in both my leagues, usually owners aren't that sharp. One league sure, both is kind of rare for a 5th round WR in a deep class on a bad team and real bad offense. Coming from a small school too.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:35 amI had him everywhere that had a taxi squad; now the question is can I roster him in my shallower leagues where he's still on the waiver-wire.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:47 am Darnell Mooney is my favorite late round flier/post-draft add right now. Not a perfect player, but he broke out early, he has wheels, and there's opportunity in Chicago.
I really don't want to get hyperbolic, but there's another 5'10" WR from a small school who ran a sub 4.4 that was drafted at the 28th pick in the 5th round that broke out under Matt Nagy.
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Anthony Miller traded to the Texans. Not sure where he fits there with Cobb and Coutee also slot WR candidates. This might be more newsworthy for Darnell Mooney, who is now the very clear WR2 in Chicago.
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Obviously wasn’t a Nagy guy so just getting out of Chicago is an uptick. Clean slate & everyone is on new ground in Houston so should be better chance than trying to beat out Mooney. Cobb has to deal w/ new HC / OC / QB also it’s not he has some great rapport Should be an open competition outside of Cooks clearly being the #1 wr
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Lol, always nice to see this thread again. Like an old friend, back from the dead.
My favourite Miller quip today was "I couldn't imagine an actual downgrade in situation for Miller but...what do you know, here it is!"
My favourite Miller quip today was "I couldn't imagine an actual downgrade in situation for Miller but...what do you know, here it is!"
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Mooney already was the WR2Ruggenater wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:28 pm Anthony Miller traded to the Texans. Not sure where he fits there with Cobb and Coutee also slot WR candidates. This might be more newsworthy for Darnell Mooney, who is now the very clear WR2 in Chicago.
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Not as funny, but funny, was the structure of the trade. They swapped day 3 draft picks. Basically, the Bears gave Miller to Houston for free. That's how worthless they consider him.
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If folks didn't see some promise with Mooney last year, they likely will now. New (better) QB and less competition for targets.
Not excited for Miller in Houston though.
Not excited for Miller in Houston though.
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I drafted Miller for a keeper league his rookie preseason, and had hopes he would develop. I cut him early in the 2020 season, fed up with too many 5tgt/3rec/20yd games.
I wasn't too high on Mooney before and I guess I'm still not on his bandwagon. But I think the Miller trade definitely opens up an opportunity for Mooney to be the next guy who is the next guy in line.
I wasn't too high on Mooney before and I guess I'm still not on his bandwagon. But I think the Miller trade definitely opens up an opportunity for Mooney to be the next guy who is the next guy in line.
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I bought Miller as quickly throw in at last year's deadline. I became so unimpressed I cut him without getting an offer of even a 4th for him. Only one team put in a claim for him.
I stumbled across an article about Atwell that had a few paragraphs on Miller that seem worth sharing.
I stumbled across an article about Atwell that had a few paragraphs on Miller that seem worth sharing.
https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2021/5/3/ ... fting-tutuMiller was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2018 draft (pick 51 overall) out of Memphis. Many experts loved Miller as a WR prospect. Matt Miller for Bleacher Report compared him to Brandin Cooks. A SB Nation draft profile said he was a 1st round talent. Lance Zierlein gave him a 6.20 draft grade and a 3rd round projection. All the draft evaluations were very similar. They praised Miller's competitiveness and work ethic. He was a former walk-on and the coaches said he was a hard worker. Experts were concerned about dropped passes and a foot injury. At his pro day, Miller had a 6.65 sec 3 cone (substantially better than Atwell, even though Miller was nearly 50 pounds heavier), had a 39'' vert jump (half a foot better than Atwell) and ran 4.48 sec in the 40. He was 5'11'' tall and 201 pounds.
Miller has struggled his first 3 years in the NFL. One of the plays cited by the press as being emblematic of his problems happened against the Rams in 2019. Miller doesn't run the route precisely and when Trubisky throws the pass, the ball bounces off of Miller's hands, resulting in an INT for Troy Hill. A couple of plays later, Jared Goff throws a deep pass to Cooper Kupp for a 50 yard gain, setting up a Todd Gurley TD plunge from the one yard line. The Rams go up 10-0 and eventually win the game 17-7.
Both Matt Nagy and Mike Furrey (the WR coach, who is a former Rams player) have been openly critical of Miller's work ethic and professionalism. The Bears coaches said that when Miller was a rookie, they would hold their breath, just hoping that Miller would go to the right place in his route. They had concerns with his big ego, how he lacked attention to detail in his route running, struggled to grasp the playbook and didn't prepare properly.
Furrey said, "[Miller] was allowed to get away with a lot of stuff [in college] and his statistics were phenomenal, but that stuff just doesn't work in the pros." Explaining why Miller hadn't gotten more playing time, Furrey said, "The reason why [he's not on the field] is because you can't trust him." The other Bears WRs once jokingly voted Miller the WR most likely to be late to practice.
Despite the coaches telling the media that Miller had improved since his rookie year and turned over a new leaf, things didn't improve in either of his 2nd or 3rd seasons. Recently, the Bears put Miller on the trading block, but there doesn't seem to be much interest in him from other teams. So much for Miller being the next Brandin Cooks. All of the draft profiles praising Miller for his work ethic appear to have been off.
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Haven't seen this thread in years. Did I miss out on the next all time great?
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No , you came back just in time to gloatgrandmabetty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:28 pm Haven't seen this thread in years. Did I miss out on the next all time great?
Come back in a cpl of years when he has replaced Cooks as Texans wr1
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On the bright side he'll possibly be one of the cheapest WRs to acquire if you're looking for low cost boom/bust players.
New team, new offence, no secure QB but plenty of opportunity.
New team, new offence, no secure QB but plenty of opportunity.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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