Looking for possibly the last piece of the puzzle..

[BradyT]

With my team(from below in the sig) being set at more or less every position, I´m looking to add maybe the final piece of the puzzle... a big time LBer beside Ray Lewis. That being said.. the best IDP(Patrick Willis) scored 184 points last season(Beason 166.5 pts) and being 46th overall in scoring with that.

Scoring: Tackles 1 pt, sacks/Int 4 pts
Offensive standart scoring.

That being said.. it would need to be one of the top options at that position.. Patrick Willis or Jon Beason. Those two are on the same team and he needs a WR badly.

I will not part ways with Fitz,Jennings,Crabtree and Dez Bryant.. but I´d consider moving Hakeem Nicks for Willis, maybe Beason.

Would you do this considering the state of my team, the potential offensive players have compared to IDP´s?

[MR ROURKE]

Getting a top LB would be nice, but I don't think I would part with Nicks right now. Nicks should be worth more then the LB shortly.
Thomas Howard has limited value now with Trevor Scott playing the weak side.

I'd go bargin shopping for a guy with a lot of upside like DeAndre Levy. For some reason everyone in my leagues is way down on Kirk Morrison.... yes he's getting older, but he's going to be a MLB for the Jags and getting lots of tackles. I really like Daryl Washington, but I'm not sure he's going to get you the help you're looking for until late this year or next year.

[gaz29]

I am not sure Hicks alone would be enough to get a LB of that quality.

I play in a league where LBs score like #1 LBs. Willis (307pts) finished just outside of the top overall for scoring. He was around MJD (305pts) and ADP (306pts). CJ scored like over 400 pts as the top scorer.

Anyhow I traded for Willis this offseason and had to give up Colston and Lamaar Woodley to get him, this was from a 49er fan who didnt want to give him up. I could easily afford to do this as I already had Fitz, Crabtree and I drafted Dez Bryant as well

What I am saying though is that if the league scoring means top LBs score very well you will almost have to pay stud like RB/WR prices for them.

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What I am saying though is that if the league scoring means top LBs score very well you will almost have to pay stud like RB/WR prices for them.

OP already stated that Willis was the #1 LB and ranked 46th overall in the scoring system...

Seeing that the scoring system does not favor IDP scoring, is there really a significant gap from Willis to say the 10th or 20th ranked LB? I'd certainly consider offering Nicks straight up, but I'd take that into consideration first. If IDP scoring is relatively weak is there a significant enough benefit from a top LB vs someone a bit lower?

[Steelersfan]

I would move Nicks for either Willis or Beason straight up. You have the WR depth to allow you to make the deal and I think Nicks is being a little overvalued right now...

[jthirteentimes]

I would move Nicks for either Willis or Beason straight up. You have the WR depth to allow you to make the deal and I think Nicks is being a little overvalued right now...

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I like Nicks, but agree that he might be a bit overvalued seeing that his value is based on potential alone. With that in mind, it wouldn't be a bad idea to see if you can get an extra player, even if it means taking Beason over Willis. Also, it would be good to know how many WRs you start.

But looks like you'd be trading someone who is buried on your depth chart for someone that would be a bonafide starter. Anytime you can do that its usually a good deal. In this case, it would be a nice deal for both teams.

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[BradyT]

First number is the rank they have in the group of their respective position and the 2nd one is the overall rank from all players(O and D) combined, with scored points behind the names.

Top 10 QB´s last season:
1.2. Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB 308.0
2.3. Brees, Drew NOS QB 280.0
3.6. Manning, Peyton IND QB 271.0
4.8. Brady, Tom NEP QB 256.0
5.9. Rivers, Philip SDC QB 251.0
6.10. Schaub, Matt HOU QB 251.0
7.11. Romo, Tony DAL QB 249.0
8.13. Favre, Brett MIN QB 246.0
9.14. Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 238.0
10.19. Manning, Eli NYG QB 219.0

Top 10 RB´s last season:
1.1. Johnson, Chris TEN RB 327.5
2.4. Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 275.0
3.5. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 273.0
4.7. Rice, Ray BAL RB 257.0
5.24. Gore, Frank SFO RB 215.0 2.0
7.27. Addai, Joseph IND RB 207.5
8.28. Jones, Thomas NYJ RB 207.0
9.34. Jackson, Steven STL RB 199.0
10.35. Grant, Ryan GBP RB 198.5

Top 10 WR´s last season:
1.12. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 246.5
2.15. Moss, Randy NEP WR 228.0
3.16. Wayne, Reggie IND WR 224.5
4.17. Austin, Miles DAL WR 221.0
5.18. Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 220.0
6.21. Welker, Wes NEP WR 217.0
7.22. Marshall, Brandon DEN WR 216.5
8.23. Jackson, DeSean PHI WR 216.0
9.30. Smith, Steve NYG WR 201.5
10.31. White, Roddy ATL WR 201.5

Top 10 LB last season:
1.46. Willis, Patrick SFO LB 184.0
2.56. Beason, Jon CAR LB 166.5
3.58. Cushing, Brian HOU LB 165.0
4.76. Harris, David NYJ LB 144.5
5.80. Williams, DJ DEN LB 142.5
6.89. Fletcher, London WAS LB 138.5
7.90. Lewis, Ray BAL LB 138.5
8.95. Hawthorne, David SEA LB 135.0
9.98. Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB 133.5
10.103. Harrison, James PIT LB 132.0

As you can see, there is a significant drop off from the 10th LB to Willis.

WR´s have more scoring potential, but Willis(and maybe Beason) is the only LB that comes close to the scoring of a top 10 WR, not to mention he´s doing it on a consistant basis.. probably for the next decade.

[GridIronFavre]

If you could get Willis for Nicks straight up, I would pull the trigger. Makes your starting roster better and leaves you with plenty of WRs still.

[meineymoe]

With my team(from below in the sig) being set at more or less every position, I´m looking to add maybe the final piece of the puzzle... a big time LBer beside Ray Lewis. That being said.. the best IDP(Patrick Willis) scored 184 points last season(Beason 166.5 pts) and being 46th overall in scoring with that.

Scoring: Tackles 1 pt, sacks/Int 4 pts
Offensive standart scoring.

That being said.. it would need to be one of the top options at that position.. Patrick Willis or Jon Beason. Those two are on the same team and he needs a WR badly.

I will not part ways with Fitz,Jennings,Crabtree and Dez Bryant.. but I´d consider moving Hakeem Nicks for Willis, maybe Beason.

Would you do this considering the state of my team, the potential offensive players have compared to IDP´s?

You should reconsider moving one of your top 4 WRs - your team is stacked, and an elite team such as yours should have an elite LB talent on it - but to move one of them, I would say you have to get Willis.

I wouldn't do it straight up, of course - what does his roster look like? does he have a young TE that would be an upgrade to your #2 TE? Think along those lines -- but at any rate, I think Nicks will develop and be in Jennings' class. And you have the RB strength to go that route with your flex player as well.

Good luck, and go for the gold! Get Willis!!

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[BradyT]

With my team(from below in the sig) being set at more or less every position, I´m looking to add maybe the final piece of the puzzle... a big time LBer beside Ray Lewis. That being said.. the best IDP(Patrick Willis) scored 184 points last season(Beason 166.5 pts) and being 46th overall in scoring with that.

Scoring: Tackles 1 pt, sacks/Int 4 pts
Offensive standart scoring.

That being said.. it would need to be one of the top options at that position.. Patrick Willis or Jon Beason. Those two are on the same team and he needs a WR badly.

I will not part ways with Fitz,Jennings,Crabtree and Dez Bryant.. but I´d consider moving Hakeem Nicks for Willis, maybe Beason.

Would you do this considering the state of my team, the potential offensive players have compared to IDP´s?

You should reconsider moving one of your top 4 WRs - your team is stacked, and an elite team such as yours should have an elite LB talent on it - but to move one of them, I would say you have to get Willis.

I wouldn't do it straight up, of course - what does his roster look like? does he have a young TE that would be an upgrade to your #2 TE? Think along those lines -- but at any rate, I think Nicks will develop and be in Jennings' class. And you have the RB strength to go that route with your flex player as well.

Good luck, and go for the gold! Get Willis!!

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Thats his roster:

Dixon, Dennis PIT QB -
Quinn, Brady DEN QB -
Romo, Tony DAL QB -
Young, Vince TEN QB -

Brown, Donald IND RB -
Charles, Jamaal KCC RB -
Davis, James CLE RB -
Dixon, Anthony SFO RB (R) -
Dwyer, Jonathan PIT RB (R) -
Forsett, Justin SEA RB -
Harrison, Jerome CLE RB -
McFadden, Darren OAK RB -
Ogbonnaya, Chris STL RB -
Starks, James GBP RB (R) -
Tate, Ben HOU RB (R) -

Breaston, Steve ARI WR -
Burton, Keenan STL WR -
Doucet, Early ARI WR -
Heyward-Bey, Darrius OAK WR -
Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR -
Jackson, Vincent SDC WR -
Jenkins, Michael ATL WR -
Manningham, Mario NYG WR -
Naanee, Legedu SDC WR -
Robiskie, Brian CLE WR -
Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR (R) -

Bennett, Martellus DAL TE -
Davis, Fred WAS TE -
Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE (R) -

Carpenter, Dan MIA PK -
Avril, Cliff DET DE -
Griffen, Everson MIN DE (R) -
Jackson, Lawrence SEA DE -
Jackson, Tyson KCC DE -
Odom, Antwan CIN DE -

Beason, Jon CAR LB -
Black, Quincy TBB LB -
Boley, Michael NYG LB -
Brinkley, Jasper MIN LB -
Gooden, Tavares BAL LB -
Harris, David NYJ LB -
Kindle, Sergio BAL LB (R) -
Maybin, Aaron BUF LB -
Willis, Patrick SFO LB -

Arenas, Javier KCC CB (R) -
Finnegan, Cortland TEN CB -
Hall, Leon CIN CB -
Powers, Jerraud IND CB -
Griffin, Michael TEN S -
Thomas, Earl SEA S (R)

We just started talking about a Nicks/Willis trade.. and he´s thinking about it.

[lemmi]

I agree with meineymoe.
Maybe see if he'll throw Gresham in there and you could send a pick back too.
If you can't deal done for Willis, like Rourke suggested you could go after Levy. Another low cost guy could be Daryl Washington. I think he'll put up real nice numbers taking over for Dansby.
Neither is Willis or Beason, but nice fall back options if you can't land one of them.

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If you can get Willis, this looks like a good trade for you.