Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

[thunderTung]

It was the firefighters fault. Blame Canada.

Yeah…this is “pass the buck” at its finest. Go get drunk, drive your vehicle at extreme speeds, cause an accident, kill someone…but yeah, it’s definitely the firefighters fault.

Eesh. Throw accountability out the window.

I feel like this is a slap in the face to all the real victims here.

He didn't kill her. Her inability to get out of the car while it was on fire is what killed her - His defense team. (probably)

The system is messed up. I get that someone needs to defend him, but my goodness how do you really try to get someone out of this?

I mean I def couldn't be a defense attorney for someone that does something like that, but like you said someone has to defend him. and thats what Ruggs is paying him for.

idk I don't think we should be bashing his attorney, he's doing whatever he can to lighten Ruggs sentence, which is quite literally his job. If he didn't do everything in his power to make that happen, he should be disbarred. Thats actually one of the good things about our messed up system.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Yeah…this is “pass the buck” at its finest. Go get drunk, drive your vehicle at extreme speeds, cause an accident, kill someone…but yeah, it’s definitely the firefighters fault.

Eesh. Throw accountability out the window.

I feel like this is a slap in the face to all the real victims here.

He didn't kill her. Her inability to get out of the car while it was on fire is what killed her - His defense team. (probably)

The system is messed up. I get that someone needs to defend him, but my goodness how do you really try to get someone out of this?

I mean I def couldn't be a defense attorney for someone that does something like that, but like you said someone has to defend him. and thats what Ruggs is paying him for.

idk I don't think we should be bashing his attorney, he's doing whatever he can to lighten Ruggs sentence, which is quite literally his job. If he didn't do everything in his power to make that happen, he should be disbarred. Thats actually one of the good things about our messed up system.

The system is f'd. I wouldn't want to defend him, but watching a situation take place in my own life, the guilty party, who was entirely guilty and admitted to the crime and didn't disagree with what the victim's accusations, had multiple charges brought against them by the prosecution, and there really wasn't any evidence from either side that several of them were legitimate. The prosecution likes to throw as many things as possible at the defendant so if they take a plea bargain, they use the extra charges as part of the negotiation. It's pretty weird and messed up.

The system is broken, no doubt. And I would likely be trying to minimize my sentence if I was in Ruggs shoes. But I still couldn't defend the assholes of the world who still seem remorseless about this situation and are just trying to blame someone else and weasel out of the responsibility. And they are out there.

Multiple lessons for me to take away. The biggest is that though I don't drink and drive and I don't text and drive, I also never want to be the responsible party for an accident. It's easy to be distracted by phones, gps, family, passengers, day dreaming. Once the accident happens though, there is no going back and everything changes.

In a way, I think anyone who has escaped without injuring anyone is lucky. I'd guess most of us have been distracted enough at some point to have hit the biker we didn't see or the kid crossing the street or swerving back into our own lane and just being grateful no one was coming at us in that exact moment. It's been a good wake up call for me to be a safer driver at all times.

[abloom]

It was the firefighters fault. Blame Canada.

Yeah…this is “pass the buck” at its finest. Go get drunk, drive your vehicle at extreme speeds, cause an accident, kill someone…but yeah, it’s definitely the firefighters fault.

Eesh. Throw accountability out the window.

I feel like this is a slap in the face to all the real victims here.

He didn't kill her. Her inability to get out of the car while it was on fire is what killed her - His defense team. (probably)

The system is messed up. I get that someone needs to defend him, but my goodness how do you really try to get someone out of this?

While it may appear that the system is messed up, the reality is that it ensures that every person has the right and ability to defend themselves. It's a good principle. It's just like the fact that everyone has the right to vote. You don't need to be intelligent or privileged.

The defense isn't really arguing that he isn't guilty, they are just trying to mitigate and get a lesser sentence.

[Ice]

Blaming the system before there is even a trial is what is messed up. Believe it or not, this countries legal system is founded on Innocent until PROVEN guilty. We all have a right to a trial.

The odds that Ruggs does time based on what is out there is probably north of 90%. The real question will be how much time?

He was traveling 150 MPH plus and was drunk...... Don't care how good his defense team is, getting out of that will be tough.

BTW you don't disbar an attorney for doing there legally required job. I am certain when Ruggs was arrested for this awful thing even he was read his MIRANDA RIGHTS.

[FantasyFreak]

Blaming the system before there is even a trial is what is messed up. Believe it or not, this countries legal system is founded on Innocent until PROVEN guilty. We all have a right to a trial.

The odds that Ruggs does time based on what is out there is probably north of 90%. The real question will be how much time?

He was traveling 150 MPH plus and was drunk...... Don't care how good his defense team is, getting out of that will be tough.

BTW you don't disbar an attorney for doing there legally required job. I am certain when Ruggs was arrested for this awful thing even he was read his MIRANDA RIGHTS.

Wasn't she a porn star in the 80's?

[Ice]

Blaming the system before there is even a trial is what is messed up. Believe it or not, this countries legal system is founded on Innocent until PROVEN guilty. We all have a right to a trial.

The odds that Ruggs does time based on what is out there is probably north of 90%. The real question will be how much time?

He was traveling 150 MPH plus and was drunk...... Don't care how good his defense team is, getting out of that will be tough.

BTW you don't disbar an attorney for doing there legally required job. I am certain when Ruggs was arrested for this awful thing even he was read his MIRANDA RIGHTS.

Wasn't she a porn star in the 80's?

Hahahahaha! If not she should have been!

[badbuddah]

Blaming the system before there is even a trial is what is messed up. Believe it or not, this countries legal system is founded on Innocent until PROVEN guilty. We all have a right to a trial.

The odds that Ruggs does time based on what is out there is probably north of 90%. The real question will be how much time?

He was traveling 150 MPH plus and was drunk...... Don't care how good his defense team is, getting out of that will be tough.

BTW you don't disbar an attorney for doing there legally required job. I am certain when Ruggs was arrested for this awful thing even he was read his MIRANDA RIGHTS.

I agree the defense attorneys have to put feelings aside and do everything they can to legally defend a client. The issue is, Prosecutors and DA's are supposed to only charge a person with reasonable crimes and as we are seeing in another high profile case, that is politically motivated, prosecutors only care about winning not the truth anymore. So really it feels like a race to the bottom.

[Orenthal Shames]

Blaming the system before there is even a trial is what is messed up. Believe it or not, this countries legal system is founded on Innocent until PROVEN guilty. We all have a right to a trial.

The odds that Ruggs does time based on what is out there is probably north of 90%. The real question will be how much time?

He was traveling 150 MPH plus and was drunk...... Don't care how good his defense team is, getting out of that will be tough.

BTW you don't disbar an attorney for doing there legally required job. I am certain when Ruggs was arrested for this awful thing even he was read his MIRANDA RIGHTS.

Wasn't she a porn star in the 80's?

Hahahahaha! If not she should have been!

Her and Mea Culpa made a few together if I remember correctly

[thunderTung]

Blaming the system before there is even a trial is what is messed up. Believe it or not, this countries legal system is founded on Innocent until PROVEN guilty. We all have a right to a trial.

The odds that Ruggs does time based on what is out there is probably north of 90%. The real question will be how much time?

He was traveling 150 MPH plus and was drunk...... Don't care how good his defense team is, getting out of that will be tough.

BTW you don't disbar an attorney for doing there legally required job. I am certain when Ruggs was arrested for this awful thing even he was read his MIRANDA RIGHTS.

Not sure if this was directed at me, but I was saying that he should be disbarred if he DOESNT do his job in defending his client, because of the crime.