Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
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Malik Nabers goes over the 1500 yard receiving mark for a single season.
Reminder of the only players to do this in the SEC:
1 DeVonta Smith
2 Ja'Marr Chase
3 Josh Reed
4 Amari Cooper
5 Jameson Williams
6 Justin Jefferson
7 Alshon Jeffery
Reminder of the only players to do this in the SEC:
1 DeVonta Smith
2 Ja'Marr Chase
3 Josh Reed
4 Amari Cooper
5 Jameson Williams
6 Justin Jefferson
7 Alshon Jeffery
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So he's our WR2 then?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:20 pm Malik Nabers goes over the 1500 yard receiving mark for a single season.
Reminder of the only players to do this in the SEC:
1 DeVonta Smith
2 Ja'Marr Chase
3 Josh Reed
4 Amari Cooper
5 Jameson Williams
6 Justin Jefferson
7 Alshon Jeffery
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman
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IMO, Nabers has now solidified his position as the 1.04 in 12 team SF leagues with TEP < 1.0.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:20 pm Malik Nabers goes over the 1500 yard receiving mark for a single season.
Reminder of the only players to do this in the SEC:
1 DeVonta Smith
2 Ja'Marr Chase
3 Josh Reed
4 Amari Cooper
5 Jameson Williams
6 Justin Jefferson
7 Alshon Jeffery
If TEP is 1 PPR or higher, I probably still take Bowers at 1.04.
Nabers is WR2 by a solid margin IMO.
Nabers would be WR1 in any other year since 2015 except for 2021 (Chase), or 2024 (MHJ).
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I think this is right. Although I would take Bowers in 1.5 PPR for TE leagues. Even the extra .5 elevates TEs significantly.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:35 pmIMO, Nabers has now solidified his position as the 1.04 in 12 team SF leagues with TEP < 1.0.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:20 pm Malik Nabers goes over the 1500 yard receiving mark for a single season.
Reminder of the only players to do this in the SEC:
1 DeVonta Smith
2 Ja'Marr Chase
3 Josh Reed
4 Amari Cooper
5 Jameson Williams
6 Justin Jefferson
7 Alshon Jeffery
If TEP is 1 PPR or higher, I probably still take Bowers at 1.04.
Nabers is WR2 by a solid margin IMO.
Nabers would be WR1 in any other year since 2015 except for 2021 (Chase), or 2024 (MHJ).
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I think that's probably the last we see of Henderson, MHJR and Egbuka in college.
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I'm sure some will feel like that, but all of my leagues are 0.5 TEP, and from all the guys I've talked with in those leagues, Nabers has passed Bowers for the 1.04 about a month ago.tstafford wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:36 pmI think this is right. Although I would take Bowers in 1.5 PPR for TE leagues. Even the extra .5 elevates TEs significantly.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:35 pmIMO, Nabers has now solidified his position as the 1.04 in 12 team SF leagues with TEP < 1.0.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:20 pm Malik Nabers goes over the 1500 yard receiving mark for a single season.
Reminder of the only players to do this in the SEC:
1 DeVonta Smith
2 Ja'Marr Chase
3 Josh Reed
4 Amari Cooper
5 Jameson Williams
6 Justin Jefferson
7 Alshon Jeffery
If TEP is 1 PPR or higher, I probably still take Bowers at 1.04.
Nabers is WR2 by a solid margin IMO.
Nabers would be WR1 in any other year since 2015 except for 2021 (Chase), or 2024 (MHJ).
If it wasn't for MHJ, Nabers is the best WR prospect to come out of college since Chase in 2021.
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It will be interesting to see how RB is generally valued going into rookie drafts next year. Few years ago “consensus” seemed to push RBs higher given positional scarcity. Last year was the first year in a few where “consensus” definitely skewed toward taking WR over RB. I say all this to say there is a chance that an RB tests well, gets drafted into a desirable spot, and overtakes Nabers/Bowers as the de facto 1.04. It would be sweet to snag Nabers at the 1.06 in TEP.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:46 pmI'm sure some will feel like that, but all of my leagues are 0.5 TEP, and from all the guys I've talked with in those leagues, Nabers has passed Bowers for the 1.04 about a month ago.tstafford wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:36 pmI think this is right. Although I would take Bowers in 1.5 PPR for TE leagues. Even the extra .5 elevates TEs significantly.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:35 pm
IMO, Nabers has now solidified his position as the 1.04 in 12 team SF leagues with TEP < 1.0.
If TEP is 1 PPR or higher, I probably still take Bowers at 1.04.
Nabers is WR2 by a solid margin IMO.
Nabers would be WR1 in any other year since 2015 except for 2021 (Chase), or 2024 (MHJ).
If it wasn't for MHJ, Nabers is the best WR prospect to come out of college since Chase in 2021.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
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I think there is a real chance Bowers goes later if everyone remembers Pitts. Of course, they could be excited about rookie TEs following LaPorta and Kincaid having good rookie years.blemly wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:04 pmIt will be interesting to see how RB is generally valued going into rookie drafts next year. Few years ago “consensus” seemed to push RBs higher given positional scarcity. Last year was the first year in a few where “consensus” definitely skewed toward taking WR over RB. I say all this to say there is a chance that an RB tests well, gets drafted into a desirable spot, and overtakes Nabers/Bowers as the de facto 1.04. It would be sweet to snag Nabers at the 1.06 in TEP.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:46 pmI'm sure some will feel like that, but all of my leagues are 0.5 TEP, and from all the guys I've talked with in those leagues, Nabers has passed Bowers for the 1.04 about a month ago.
If it wasn't for MHJ, Nabers is the best WR prospect to come out of college since Chase in 2021.
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I hold both in my 0.5 TEP devy league. Took Bowers two years ago and Nabers last year (along w/ Egbuka).MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:46 pmI'm sure some will feel like that, but all of my leagues are 0.5 TEP, and from all the guys I've talked with in those leagues, Nabers has passed Bowers for the 1.04 about a month ago.tstafford wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:36 pmI think this is right. Although I would take Bowers in 1.5 PPR for TE leagues. Even the extra .5 elevates TEs significantly.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:35 pm
IMO, Nabers has now solidified his position as the 1.04 in 12 team SF leagues with TEP < 1.0.
If TEP is 1 PPR or higher, I probably still take Bowers at 1.04.
Nabers is WR2 by a solid margin IMO.
Nabers would be WR1 in any other year since 2015 except for 2021 (Chase), or 2024 (MHJ).
If it wasn't for MHJ, Nabers is the best WR prospect to come out of college since Chase in 2021.
I'd ask for a little more in return for Bowers than Nabers. Although it's super close and I frankly wouldn't sell either. My reason is simply positional scarcity. In 0.5 TEP TEs account for six of the top 24 pass catchers right now. It's much harder to find one of those guys than a WR. But we're probably debating lobster and filet - at least I hope we are
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On a different note - speaking of devy leagues and '24 rookies, I wonder if any player has taken a bigger value hit than Raheim Sanders. As recently as May he was in the mix of for devy RB1. (Along with Henderson and Singleton).
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Yeah, Rocket Sanders starting to fade like this year's Kayshon Boutte.
Though I am not sure that any 2024 RB is strongly considered for devy RB1, maybe if one takes time into account heavily.
2024 is a strong QB and WR class, with an elite TE. Off year at RB, especially with Jonathon Brooks tearing his ACL
2025 seems to be a stronger RB class, IMO, though weaker at QB and WR.
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Yep, this is fair.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:47 pmYeah, Rocket Sanders starting to fade like this year's Kayshon Boutte.
Though I am not sure that any 2024 RB is strongly considered for devy RB1, maybe if one takes time into account heavily.
2024 is a strong QB and WR class, with an elite TE. Off year at RB, especially with Jonathon Brooks tearing his ACL
2025 seems to be a stronger RB class, IMO, though weaker at QB and WR.
2025 has elite potential at RB (Singleton, Gordon, Judkins, K. Allen) and potentially two stud WRs in Luther Burden and Travis Hunter, but not as much depth at WR right now. The strengths of the classes couldn't be more opposite.
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What’s the thinking on Rome Odunze? I want to like him but I still have PTSD for Washington WRs due to John Ross.
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