Derrick Henry Thread - Is he still King Henry post injury?

[MFundercover]

As unique as Derrick Henry is, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened. There's just no way you can touch the ball over 400 times a year in the NFL and not get injured. I'm surprised hes lasted as long as he has.

[dustyroads]

If I saw myself as a contender for next year with a need at RB, I'd pay a late first for Henry. Or an early 2nd with a flex RB if the team that lost Henry is still pushing for the playoffs this year. I think this is also reflective of my current outlook on the 2022 draft (which I realize is super early and very speculative; but still I've yet to see more than 4-5 players I'd be excited to take with a 1st round pick next year).

[wickerkat1212]

He broke his foot. This isn't a muscle or tendon, it's a bone. They rode him hard and a bad thing happened. I do not think he is done in the slightest.

[dynastyninja]

He broke his foot. This isn't a muscle or tendon, it's a bone. They rode him hard and a bad thing happened. I do not think he is done in the slightest.

Yes, but. I would imagine those types of injuries will be more likely going forward. I think selling for a late first/early second is a mistake and don't agree with that, but his risk profile just skyrocketed for me.

[murphysxm]

He broke his foot. This isn't a muscle or tendon, it's a bone. They rode him hard and a bad thing happened. I do not think he is done in the slightest.

Yes, but. I would imagine those types of injuries will be more likely going forward. I think selling for a late first/early second is a mistake and don't agree with that, but his risk profile just skyrocketed for me.

I am very interested why. He has always defied logic with useage and broken bones are the easist things to recover from. My opinion of him doesn't change at all, I am just bummed about my 1st place redraft team that just took a massive blow.

[dynastyninja]

He broke his foot. This isn't a muscle or tendon, it's a bone. They rode him hard and a bad thing happened. I do not think he is done in the slightest.

Yes, but. I would imagine those types of injuries will be more likely going forward. I think selling for a late first/early second is a mistake and don't agree with that, but his risk profile just skyrocketed for me.

I am very interested why. He has always defied logic with useage and broken bones are the easist things to recover from. My opinion of him doesn't change at all, I am just bummed about my 1st place redraft team that just took a massive blow.

I get what you mean, but he's still human. He might be able to fight off age more than most, but with the workload he gets I don't see how he holds it off for too much longer.

[wickerkat1212]

He broke his foot. This isn't a muscle or tendon, it's a bone. They rode him hard and a bad thing happened. I do not think he is done in the slightest.

Yes, but. I would imagine those types of injuries will be more likely going forward. I think selling for a late first/early second is a mistake and don't agree with that, but his risk profile just skyrocketed for me.

I am very interested why. He has always defied logic with useage and broken bones are the easist things to recover from. My opinion of him doesn't change at all, I am just bummed about my 1st place redraft team that just took a massive blow.

THIS.

[dynastyninja]

@murphy & wicker
Do you not consider Henry any more risky going into next year? Regardless of the type of injury, he will be on the back-end of 28 after years of significant workload. If Tennessee were to give him anything close to his standard workload, I'd bet chances are pretty high he gets injured again.

Can he be relevant and still an RB1? For sure. I think we may be looking at a CMC situation, though.

[murphysxm]

@murphy & wicker
Do you not consider Henry any more risky going into next year? Regardless of the type of injury, he will be on the back-end of 28 after years of significant workload. If Tennessee were to give him anything close to his standard workload, I'd bet chances are pretty high he gets injured again.

Can he be relevant and still an RB1? For sure. I think we may be looking at a CMC situation, though.

I have seen enough of Henry defying odds that I don't compare him to CMAC. One is 6'3" and 247, one is 5'11" and 205. Not that same dude.

[dynastyninja]

@murphy & wicker
Do you not consider Henry any more risky going into next year? Regardless of the type of injury, he will be on the back-end of 28 after years of significant workload. If Tennessee were to give him anything close to his standard workload, I'd bet chances are pretty high he gets injured again.

Can he be relevant and still an RB1? For sure. I think we may be looking at a CMC situation, though.

I have seen enough of Henry defying odds that I don't compare him to CMAC. One is 6'3" and 247, one is 5'11" and 205. Not that same dude.

Forget the CMC part of it, do you not think he's more risky?

[murphysxm]

@murphy & wicker
Do you not consider Henry any more risky going into next year? Regardless of the type of injury, he will be on the back-end of 28 after years of significant workload. If Tennessee were to give him anything close to his standard workload, I'd bet chances are pretty high he gets injured again.

Can he be relevant and still an RB1? For sure. I think we may be looking at a CMC situation, though.

I have seen enough of Henry defying odds that I don't compare him to CMAC. One is 6'3" and 247, one is 5'11" and 205. Not that same dude.

Forget the CMC part of it, do you not think he's more risky?

No more than I thought he was coming into this year. He is just different

[mild]

Forget the CMC part of it, do you not think he's more risky?

I'll bite, yes, he's more risky. But for me it just confirmed my priors, I've been on his workload since the offseason. I own no Henry anywhere.

We have more than enough data to suggest that the 400 touch count is usually a death knell for the following season. Especially when you then put that player on a pace for a 500 touch season.

We also have more than enough data to show that RB's past the age of 26/27 usually slow down and break down.

King Henry will continue to defy the odds whenever he's healthy and put up good output - but to me, we are now in the danger zone where things could start piling up on the injury front. He's a good contender piece, and that's why we have IR's - but I don't know if he'll ever handle another 400-500 touch season and be the same guy we know.

Happy to be quoted on this if he's right back to it next year, but the odds are definitely against it.

[dynastyninja]

Forget the CMC part of it, do you not think he's more risky?

I'll bite, yes, he's more risky. But for me it just confirmed my priors, I've been on his workload since the offseason. I own no Henry anywhere.

We have more than enough data to suggest that the 400 touch count is usually a death knell for the following season. Especially when you then put that player on a pace for a 500 touch season.

We also have more than enough data to show that RB's past the age of 26/27 usually slow down and break down.

King Henry will continue to defy the odds whenever he's healthy and put up good output - but to me, we are now in the danger zone where things could start piling up on the injury front. He's a good contender piece, and that's why we have IR's - but I don't know if he'll ever handle another 400-500 touch season and be the same guy we know.

Happy to be quoted on this if he's right back to it next year, but the odds are definitely against it.

Agreed

[wickerkat1212]

@murphy & wicker
Do you not consider Henry any more risky going into next year? Regardless of the type of injury, he will be on the back-end of 28 after years of significant workload. If Tennessee were to give him anything close to his standard workload, I'd bet chances are pretty high he gets injured again.

Can he be relevant and still an RB1? For sure. I think we may be looking at a CMC situation, though.

A broken bone changes nothing for me. His age is going to be a concern, but most RBs don't even start to fall off a cliff until 30. (I think that's right, but if I'm wrong, and it's 27-28, so be it.) And I do think Henry is special. He's a beast. I will probably ride him into dust. So no, this doesn't change anything for me. Unless the broken bone can lead to a muscle or ligament injury, but I don't think that's the case. He was the #1 RB in the NFL when he got hurt, and the #9 player in the game, for my 1 ppr, 12-man league. He's elite.

[YouMightDieTryin]

Forget the CMC part of it, do you not think he's more risky?

I'll bite, yes, he's more risky. But for me it just confirmed my priors, I've been on his workload since the offseason. I own no Henry anywhere.

We have more than enough data to suggest that the 400 touch count is usually a death knell for the following season. Especially when you then put that player on a pace for a 500 touch season.

We also have more than enough data to show that RB's past the age of 26/27 usually slow down and break down.

King Henry will continue to defy the odds whenever he's healthy and put up good output - but to me, we are now in the danger zone where things could start piling up on the injury front. He's a good contender piece, and that's why we have IR's - but I don't know if he'll ever handle another 400-500 touch season and be the same guy we know.

Happy to be quoted on this if he's right back to it next year, but the odds are definitely against it.

I'll bite back. While I agree there is a cliff to fall off I don't see any more risk with Henry over someone like a Cam Akers, ETN, or Dobbins at this point.