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Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:36 am Everyone who watched the entire game knows there were monster holes for Swift to run through all night. Philly's line was destroying the Vikes in the run game. That said, he did have good burst, and there were definitely a few runs where he made great decisions to abandon the design of the run and take it elsewhere for larger chunk gains.

Agree with those who believe this will be a bit of a frustrating backfield for fantasy. They'll use all healthy RB's weekly to some extent and likely ride the "hot hand" as long as that doesn't mean overworking any one RB. This will serve Philly very well in terms of NLF ball, but be frustrating for our hobby. Whose turn will it be to shoulder the load in Week 3?

One thing from last night I did find interesting about Philly's play calling. They initially looked to have more pass/run balance, but I believe it was early in the 2nd quarter when they said, "Screw it!" and starting jamming the ball down the Vikes throats repeatedly to great success. The rest of the way they were very run-heavy.

And, that undoubtedly set up the deep shots to Smith, and Brown (should have been P.I.). I'm wondering if we'll see more of this approach from the Eagles moving forward, until a team shows they're able to stop it? When the majority of teams are around 60/40% pass-run, and have built their defenses around those numbers, a team doing the opposite with quality personnel could make some waves.

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:42 am

Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:36 am Everyone who watched the entire game knows there were monster holes for Swift to run through all night. Philly's line was destroying the Vikes in the run game. That said, he did have good burst, and there were definitely a few runs where he made great decisions to abandon the design of the run and take it elsewhere for larger chunk gains.

Agree with those who believe this will be a bit of a frustrating backfield for fantasy. They'll use all healthy RB's weekly to some extent and likely ride the "hot hand" as long as that doesn't mean overworking any one RB. This will serve Philly very well in terms of NLF ball, but be frustrating for our hobby. Whose turn will it be to shoulder the load in Week 3?

One thing from last night I did find interesting about Philly's play calling. They initially looked to have more pass/run balance, but I believe it was early in the 2nd quarter when they said, "Screw it!" and starting jamming the ball down the Vikes throats repeatedly to great success. The rest of the way they were very run-heavy.

And, that undoubtedly set up the deep shots to Smith, and Brown (should have been P.I.). I'm wondering if we'll see more of this approach from the Eagles moving forward, until a team shows they're able to stop it? When the majority of teams are around 60/40% pass-run, and have built their defenses around those numbers, a team doing the opposite with quality personnel could make some waves.

100% agree. They were trying to force the passes early, but as soon as they committed to the run, it was over. Huge holes. Both Swift and Scott looked good. Penny, not so much

frerichs5 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:45 am

Mike11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:15 am It was legit. Per Next Gen Stats:

D'Andre Swift ran for a career-high 175 yards and a TD on 28 carries in his first start for the Eagles (+41 rushing yards over expected).

Swift recorded the 8th-highest success rate (64.3%) by any player with 25+ carries in a game since 2016.

0 tackles for loss too.

So he was expected to get 134 yards and he had 133 yards before contact. Ok

0 tackles for loss. Again, given the yards before contact, not exactly surprising and not necessarily saying anything about Swift vs the OLine/defense.

Success rate is interesting. But I’m not sure what that is. Is this strictly a RB stat? Or related to OLine as well?

I’m not trying to say Swift wasn’t good. I’m just trying to take the game with a grain of salt given how bad that run defense was last night.

ericanadian wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am

frerichs5 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:45 am

Mike11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:15 am It was legit. Per Next Gen Stats:

D'Andre Swift ran for a career-high 175 yards and a TD on 28 carries in his first start for the Eagles (+41 rushing yards over expected).

Swift recorded the 8th-highest success rate (64.3%) by any player with 25+ carries in a game since 2016.

0 tackles for loss too.

So he was expected to get 134 yards and he had 133 yards before contact. Ok

0 tackles for loss. Again, given the yards before contact, not exactly surprising and not necessarily saying anything about Swift vs the OLine/defense.

Success rate is interesting. But I’m not sure what that is. Is this strictly a RB stat? Or related to OLine as well?

I’m not trying to say Swift wasn’t good. I’m just trying to take the game with a grain of salt given how bad that run defense was last night.

I don’t really love either stat to be honest. Yards after contact, as you’re using it, assumes the running back has no influence in how he evades the defense. When you cut back and avoid contact when the play was designed for you to continue and run into contact, the running back deserves some credit for making the correct decision there.

Expected yards is way too opinion based for me. I know they try to chart it out like in baseball, but there are way too few plays and way too many variables for it to be effective in my view.

moishetreats wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:30 am So... Philly has a dominant offensive line and it's blowing up holes for its RBs. And we're holding that *against* Swift??

moishetreats wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:30 am So... Philly has a dominant offensive line and it's blowing up holes for its RBs. And we're holding that *against* Swift??

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:42 am 100% agree. They were trying to force the passes early, but as soon as they committed to the run, it was over. Huge holes. Both Swift and Scott looked good. Penny, not so much

BellCow wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:54 am The question now is whether anyone is willing to buy him as a win now piece and if we can expect long term value