Dynasty League Football Forum

ArrylT wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:42 pm We'll obviously have a better idea on what his (Damien Williams) consensus value is once January ADP comes out. For now it is going to be everyones opinion based on their experiences & league prices.

I will say this though

(a) I actually have Damien Williams on a 16 team roster (DLF HOF) I took over. IE he was on the roster when I took the roster over.

(b) Even after Hunt situation went down - there was no interest in Williams in that league - and by the time Ware went down it was too late ..

Here is the trade finder for Williams

http://apps.dynastyleaguefootball.com/t ... ayer=16031

(c) We know that most owners are cheap & afraid to take risks.

(d) We know that most owners are not capable of thinking outside the box and projecting things like this (a player getting an opportunity after being stuck on practice or behind 2-3 players). Many people do not want to take that risk of stashing or purchasing said player until they hit - they want either the sure hit, or the fast profit.

Therefore yes you may think he is worth a 1st or an early 2nd - but unless you can actually get that price out of someone that is merely a potential value and not practical value. The fast profit may only be a late 2nd, or a 3rd or 4th depending on your leagues market.

In the end, if Damien Williams ends up like guys like Jeremy Langford, Thomas Rawls or Matt Jones - then their value crashes as quickly as it was deemed to have risen - so it is really up to every owner to find their comfort level and buy/sell at the price they are able to do so.

Waiting for that magicial 1st to appear in your inbox, because everyone said you should only sell him for a 1st, may never appear, and sometimes getting something (even if it is deemed little value) is worthwhile when you could end up where you started - with nothing (once you cut your Williams for the next best thing). I would not be surprised to see Alex Collins on waivers in typical leagues this off-season - and that may or may not be Williams fate 9 months from now.

Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:06 am I'd like to see Corey Grant there myself, but with limited cap space i think they draft a rb as opposed to signing a more expensive free agent.

ninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:58 pm Best case scenario I think, he's another Justin Forsett in the sense that he has a late career breakout and is thus fantasy relevant for 1-2 seasons.

Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:04 am

ninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:58 pm Best case scenario I think, he's another Justin Forsett in the sense that he has a late career breakout and is thus fantasy relevant for 1-2 seasons.

Totally agree situation-wise. I'm in no way touting him as a long term answer, but hell even 1-2 years in that offense could pay huge dividends if that is the case. In a deep league where rbs are nearly impossible to acquire if you didn't draft them, holding is worth the potential losses imo.

I get he's been irrelevant up to this point in his career, but i don't see why people assume he is only a 3rd down back. He's plenty big enough with elite size adjusted speed.

Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:04 pm Agreed. In my leagues I can almost always roster my 1st round pick, usually my 2nd, and rarely if ever my 3rd and 4th. Plenty of other teams in my league can but I think I just am better at roster management

I have Damien Williams and I would value him at late 1st/early 2nd right now. He won me two leagues including my main big money league(in my sig) this year. In another league I lost in the ship to the Damien owner. Looking back I would have traded every 2019 pick I had in that league to get him, because it would have meant a championship. People are way overvaluing their draft picks if they want their 1st round pick over that

Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:32 pm Damien got the bulk of carries when it was still a game. Darrel got cleanup duty.

Bo Jackson wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:09 pm I just traded DW for a 2020 and Curtis Samuel. Samuel was a throw in because he needed to make room. So really just the 2020 pick.

Rather sell now than get nothing later. If he becomes the lead back next season, oh well. I'll take the gamble

hockeyBjj wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:48 pm Damien Williams opening TD for KC in the playoffs

He's doing his best to make it awfully difficult to replace him based off production and performance. Nice little jump cut at the 4 to dodge two defenders and get into endzone