Sorry AJ Dillon owners

[sloth8u]

Aaron Jones just resigned with GB on a 4 yr deal!

This is why I don't really look into buying rbs in the offseason.

In terms of dillon...own a few shares but didn't receive a single offer or counter to the few offers I sent out... I know there have been some "crazy trades" involving dillon throughout leagues....but I don't think that's the norm.

Nothing has changed for me in regards to jones signing. If anything, this may be better than them bringing someone else in or resigning williams instead... Simply put...I know I'm not counting on dillon going into the season.

I still think gb will give him an opportunity to earn touches and I expect him to be better than williams. How much that cuts into jones has yet to be determined.

[MEuRaH]

I very much liked Dillon, and in my original MFL I showed that his size and combine stats matched up with only a select few RBs ever. Eight to be exact, including Steven Jackson, Leonard Fournette, and Derrick Henry.

I thought the draft of Dillon by the Packers was genius. Jones is on his last year of his deal, you get solid depth and a full season to learn the position. Let Jones walk and use that cap space to surround Rodgers with better talent. After all, RB depth is easy to find.

And yet the Packers continue to disappoint time and time again. 1st rounder used on a backup QB. 2nd rounder used on a backup RB. 3rd rounder on a backup tight end. Rodgers is nearing the end, and the Packers don't seem to be trying to win now OR build towards the future. What a waste.

I loved Dillon but only enough to buy a couple shares. Someone offered me their entire 2022 draft class for him and that was an easy accept for me. The other share I have I used a mid-late 2nd on him in a salary cap league. Nobody was going to give me a first for him anyway. Maybe I'll trade him away to the Jones owner for a lateral pick.

What a waste. Where's that Office meme when I need it.

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[Bot101]

I packaged Dillion with Ekeler for Akers when people were calling Akers a bust. Wheeeeew glad I made that deal!

[Ice]

Draft capital isn’t just about the cost of the contract. You’re not drafting for depth with a 2nd round pick especially when there’s other holes on your team. 2nd rounders are drafted to be starters.

Actually that’s a narrow view given offense and defense make up 22 starters on rosters over 50.

Draft capital is about drafting solid players. Obviously Dillon was their highest rated RB on their board and a position of need. Once on the field the best ultimately start regardless of round taken.

Dillon hasn’t disappointed. It is not like he sucks it’s just that Jones is really good. We can count on 1 hand backs that have been better than Jones the last couple of years. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have drafted a RB.

The Rams seem to Draft an RB in the 2nd round every year as one example.

Today’s NFL isn’t about 3 down backs. Dillon will see the field a lot as a RB and maybe on special teams which is also an important phase of the game.

Many teams , if not most, today have complimentary RB’s.

Rams would be a bad example. Henderson was drafted in the 3rd to replace Gurley; Akers was drafted in the 2nd because Henderson didnt show much his rookie year

That wasn't the point of the post but in reality for the absolute literal thinkers out there Dillon was selected 62'nd and Henderson 70th in their respective drafts.

Teams draft RB's like crazy in the 2nd and 3rd round. 22 in the last 3 years. Obviously in Fantasy we want them all to be 3 down backs and be stars but in today's NFL it is about complimentary football full of specialists.

Jones plays a lot like a K Hunt or Alvin Kamara. They have their Running touches monitored like about 2/3rds of the league these days.

In fact only 10 RB's in the NFL had over 200 rushing touches. Jones was 10th at 201. I wouldn't expect many more than that this year as Dillon is in the fold.

To go a bit deeper Williams had 119 rushing attempts and Dillon 46. Williams is the odd man in GB almost guaranteed.

Dillon should absorb those touches and 165 touches would have ranked 20th in the NFL in rushing attempts last year.

Interesting side note on RB's; Only 2 RB's started all 16 games last year. Name them!

[YouMightDieTryin]

Not that I'm ecstatic about it, but they do still have Funchess signed at WR. We'll see if he can stay healthy or even beat out MVS for the #3 position, but hopefully that'll help a little bit?

[nathanq42]

agreed. williams had 40% snap share last season, provided he doesn't re-sign with GB (who knows...) i can see dillon having a similar share, including goal line work, and be a serviceable RB3 with upside for the future.

Not a chance with how good Aaron Jones is at finding the endzone imo (coming from a Dillon owner) I think best case is they put him in to give Jones frequent breaks (thunder and lightning of Kamara/Ingram style), and grind out the clock once they essentially have the game in hand (Derrick Henry style). Jones is more dynamic and is better in passing situations (I know nothing of blocking, but I assume his experience would outweigh the size disparity between the two), has more experience, better connection to the team as of now, has a very good touch efficiency, and just signed a mega deal that the team will want to get their money's worth out of.

I think Dillon can have a solid End of season touch totals, but I don't see a path other than injury for him to ever crack a starting spot on most squads in the next two years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Packers are a terrible franchise buoyed by two of the top 5 QB's of all time for the past 3 decades. They are cheap in FA, except now they are spending a bunch of money in all of the wrong places (Dillon/Williams + Linsley >> Jones/Dillon without Linsley), making absolute shite draft choices, keeping their team in perpetual limbo propped up against a first ballot HoFer

[Ice]

Not sure many really understand just how good Jones is and means to the Packers. Dillon was a hopefully a solid insurance pick because teams need solid depth when RB's are so heavily relied on by many NFL teams

This stat speaks volume from a linked article.

Jones, 26, is one of only two players in NFL history to post 3,000-plus yards rushing (3,364) and 35-plus rushing touchdowns (37), with an average of 5-plus yards per carry (5.2) in their first four seasons. Jim Brown is the other.

It is easy to blast the Packers but regardless, they certainly win their fair share and Jones is a stud no matter how you slice it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/310 ... agent-says

[MFundercover]

Good to see the Dillon truthers still able to come up with a narrative.

Guy's going into his 2nd year. Why the need to be so smug? Do you think it's actually a "thing" to win the Internet?

It would be more enjoyable to read your posts if you actually added something of value to the conversation. Instead of just trolling those who are trying to do just that.

But you do you man.

Dillon owners have been the most insufferable group in dynasty over the past year. I've been shouted down for the past year for making fair criticisms about Dillons stock (which have all proven true) so I'm taking a victory lap.

It's hard to make a serious reply to the owners who are going through the stages of grief right now.

[Ice]

Good to see the Dillon truthers still able to come up with a narrative.

Guy's going into his 2nd year. Why the need to be so smug? Do you think it's actually a "thing" to win the Internet?

It would be more enjoyable to read your posts if you actually added something of value to the conversation. Instead of just trolling those who are trying to do just that.

But you do you man.

Dillon owners have been the most insufferable group in dynasty over the past year. I've been shouted down for the past year for making fair criticisms about Dillons stock (which have all proven true) so I'm taking a victory lap.

It's hard to make a serious reply to the owners who are going through the stages of grief right now.

In Fantasy, taking a victory lap after year one on a player that doesn't hit the league running isn't the wisest move IMO.

I own Dillon in one league that I drafted with the last pick in 3rd round in an IDP league. Not sure how many out there thought he would be a stud but who knows.

What we know is Dillon averaged 5.3 YPC in limited work and is just getting started. He has huge legs and runs with power. He missed time in season on the Covid list and didn't get a chance to even have a training camp.

You have no clue if he will be a great backup, a future Stud like Henry, who didn't have a 1000 yard season until year 3, or a bust.

To date, just like when drafted, he is worth a roster spot and should have a much better season this year if he remains healthy.

[Shankopotamus]

This is a good point. If I were running the Packers, I would've used that valuable cap space to sign a nice WR. I don't know if JuJu would've gone in the price range for Aaron Jones, but I would've been going that route.

The problem with this is they only gave Jones $13 million guaranteed and $13 million guaranteed doesn't buy much at WR.

Randall Cobb got $18 million guaranteed last year.

In 2019 Golden Tate got $23 million guaranteed, Tyrell Williams $21 million, Adam Humphries $19 million.

The year before that Paul Richardson, Marqise Lee, and Taylor Gabriel all got more than $13 million gtd.

In a vacuum another good WR would help GB more than a good RB. But for the money they spent we're more comparing getting a top 5 overall NFL RB or a bottom of the barrel NFL WR2 for that money.

So yeah someone like Kenny Golladay may help the team more than Jones, but Golladay is probably going to cost more than 2x as much in guaranteed money.

All this to say if you have a kid that's good at football, tell them to play WR not RB.

Pack needs to sign Marvin Jones to a 1 year deal. Not sure what his price would be, but I think he'd fill their need at Wr for a year or two.

[killer_of_giants]

agreed. williams had 40% snap share last season, provided he doesn't re-sign with GB (who knows...) i can see dillon having a similar share, including goal line work, and be a serviceable RB3 with upside for the future.

Not a chance with how good Aaron Jones is at finding the endzone imo (coming from a Dillon owner)

i meant "a share" of goal line touches, not all. i do think there's "a chance": for how good jones is, he had 9 rushing attempts inside the five to williams' 5, and dillon is much more suited than williams as goal line rusher (i do realize "inside the five" doesn't mean goal line, but it's the closest i've found).

of course if williams stays it will be bad for dillon, but if he goes, i stand by my RB3 with some big weeks stance.

[Bronco Billy]

Fun listening to those complaining that GB is clueless in their approach when they are coming off back-to-back 13-3 seasons.

[Lumps]

Fun listening to those complaining that GB is clueless in their approach when they are coming off back-to-back 13-3 seasons.

This is completely a narrow scope and remedial. Others will chime in to that affect as well. It isn't that they win games, it's that they aren't winning Super Bowls. They have a top 5 QB all time and have a total of 1 SB.

Again the 1st 3 rounds last year are backups. Take a look here:

https://www.eatdrinkandsleepfootball.co ... fthistory/

[Pac_Eddy]

Fun listening to those complaining that GB is clueless in their approach when they are coming off back-to-back 13-3 seasons.

Aaron Rodgers is that good. He covers up a LOT of bad management. Imagine how many rings he'd have with Andy Reid, Sean Payton, or Bill Belichick.

[OhCruelestRanter]

Good to see the Dillon truthers still able to come up with a narrative.

Guy's going into his 2nd year. Why the need to be so smug? Do you think it's actually a "thing" to win the Internet?

It would be more enjoyable to read your posts if you actually added something of value to the conversation. Instead of just trolling those who are trying to do just that.

But you do you man.

Dillon owners have been the most insufferable group in dynasty over the past year. I've been shouted down for the past year for making fair criticisms about Dillons stock (which have all proven true) so I'm taking a victory lap.

It's hard to make a serious reply to the owners who are going through the stages of grief right now.

I have no Dillon shares and I have not experienced “Dillon owners” as a noticeable faction. I don’t really see the people “going through the stages of grief” either. A lot of this seems to be going on inside your own head.

“HA TOLD YOU THAT MID-LATE SECOND ROUND ROOKIE PICK WOULD BUST” is the most embarrassingly small victory I’ve ever seen somebody take a victory lap over. These guys bust all the time. You want to go dunk on everybody who took Bryan Edwards next?