Jameson Williams Thread

[Hottoddies]

I knows it’s a different position but Gibbs being drafted this year as an explosive playmaker is also just not good for Jameson. That 41 yard run Jameson had last year is going to go to Gibbs now. I don’t see any significant target share for Williams now. I think he can do exactly what Detroit drafted him for but for fantasy it seems now more than ever that he just won’t get the volume he needs

This seems to be quite a stretch to me.

Pass attempts are pass attempts, wether they are to a WR, RB, Or TE. Where do you see Jameson getting substantial fantasy volume from now? Gibbs will take away targets from every player. Goff especially used to love checking down to Gurley

After you take out the production that Amon-Ra St. Brown received last year you still have 249 receptions and 3,102 yards to hand out. There should be enough goodies to go around.

[Jigga94]

I knows it’s a different position but Gibbs being drafted this year as an explosive playmaker is also just not good for Jameson. That 41 yard run Jameson had last year is going to go to Gibbs now. I don’t see any significant target share for Williams now. I think he can do exactly what Detroit drafted him for but for fantasy it seems now more than ever that he just won’t get the volume he needs

This seems to be quite a stretch to me.

Ahh the dead months in dynasty of May-July

[ericanadian]

I knows it’s a different position but Gibbs being drafted this year as an explosive playmaker is also just not good for Jameson. That 41 yard run Jameson had last year is going to go to Gibbs now. I don’t see any significant target share for Williams now. I think he can do exactly what Detroit drafted him for but for fantasy it seems now more than ever that he just won’t get the volume he needs

This seems to be quite a stretch to me.

Pass attempts are pass attempts, wether they are to a WR, RB, Or TE. Where do you see Jameson getting substantial fantasy volume from now? Gibbs will take away targets from every player. Goff especially used to love checking down to Gurley

I mean.. Swift missed a bunch of time, but still had 70 targets last year. My guess is the targets mostly come from there.

[murphysxm]

I knows it’s a different position but Gibbs being drafted this year as an explosive playmaker is also just not good for Jameson. That 41 yard run Jameson had last year is going to go to Gibbs now. I don’t see any significant target share for Williams now. I think he can do exactly what Detroit drafted him for but for fantasy it seems now more than ever that he just won’t get the volume he needs

This seems to be quite a stretch to me.

Pass attempts are pass attempts, wether they are to a WR, RB, Or TE. Where do you see Jameson getting substantial fantasy volume from now? Gibbs will take away targets from every player. Goff especially used to love checking down to Gurley

No pass attempts are not pass attempts. If Jameson and Gibbs are competing for the same touches, Jameson is toast. I don't have fear of this.

[FantasyFreak]

This seems to be quite a stretch to me.

Pass attempts are pass attempts, wether they are to a WR, RB, Or TE. Where do you see Jameson getting substantial fantasy volume from now? Gibbs will take away targets from every player. Goff especially used to love checking down to Gurley

No pass attempts are not pass attempts. If Jameson and Gibbs are competing for the same touches, Jameson is toast. I don't have fear of this.

The issue with them drafting Gibbs, for FF purposes, is it makes sense tactically, to have Jameson running a lot of 9 routes (clearout routes), in order to set up pass attempts for Gibbs in space. Had the Lions taken a guard, or DE in the first round, there really wouldn't be as much to worry about in this regard, with a guy like Monty there.

I don't think Jameson Williams is going to be a high target WR. I think he'll have some big games, but I don't think he's going to be getting a high target share, like a lot of other teams "WR1". With ARSB, Gibbs, and eventually Laporta, they have a ton of really good passing game weapons.

Williams fits a very important role for real football, but my concern is it won't be all that great for FF. Boom bust type outlook IMO. One of the reasons I moved him, beyond the fact the between the ears downside.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Pass attempts are pass attempts, wether they are to a WR, RB, Or TE. Where do you see Jameson getting substantial fantasy volume from now? Gibbs will take away targets from every player. Goff especially used to love checking down to Gurley

No pass attempts are not pass attempts. If Jameson and Gibbs are competing for the same touches, Jameson is toast. I don't have fear of this.

The issue with them drafting Gibbs, for FF purposes, is it makes sense tactically, to have Jameson running a lot of 9 routes (clearout routes), in order to set up pass attempts for Gibbs in space. Had the Lions taken a guard, or DE in the first round, there really wouldn't be as much to worry about in this regard, with a guy like Monty there.

I don't think Jameson Williams is going to be a high target WR. I think he'll have some big games, but I don't think he's going to be getting a high target share, like a lot of other teams "WR1". With ARSB, Gibbs, and eventually Laporta, they have a ton of really good passing game weapons.

Williams fits a very important role for real football, but my concern is it won't be all that great for FF. Boom bust type outlook IMO. One of the reasons I moved him, beyond the fact the between the ears downside.

Can he be a Mike Wallace? Or a healthy Will Fuller? Both put up great stats as more of a vertical threat if I remember correctly. Neither were hardly their own teams wr1.

[ericanadian]

No pass attempts are not pass attempts. If Jameson and Gibbs are competing for the same touches, Jameson is toast. I don't have fear of this.

The issue with them drafting Gibbs, for FF purposes, is it makes sense tactically, to have Jameson running a lot of 9 routes (clearout routes), in order to set up pass attempts for Gibbs in space. Had the Lions taken a guard, or DE in the first round, there really wouldn't be as much to worry about in this regard, with a guy like Monty there.

I don't think Jameson Williams is going to be a high target WR. I think he'll have some big games, but I don't think he's going to be getting a high target share, like a lot of other teams "WR1". With ARSB, Gibbs, and eventually Laporta, they have a ton of really good passing game weapons.

Williams fits a very important role for real football, but my concern is it won't be all that great for FF. Boom bust type outlook IMO. One of the reasons I moved him, beyond the fact the between the ears downside.

Can he be a Mike Wallace? Or a healthy Will Fuller? Both put up great stats as more of a vertical threat if I remember correctly. Neither were hardly their own teams wr1.

With Goff? My concern would be a Sammy Watkins situation. The hope would be that he fills the role more similar to Brandin Cooks, which seems possible.

[Ice]

The issue with them drafting Gibbs, for FF purposes, is it makes sense tactically, to have Jameson running a lot of 9 routes (clearout routes), in order to set up pass attempts for Gibbs in space. Had the Lions taken a guard, or DE in the first round, there really wouldn't be as much to worry about in this regard, with a guy like Monty there.

I don't think Jameson Williams is going to be a high target WR. I think he'll have some big games, but I don't think he's going to be getting a high target share, like a lot of other teams "WR1". With ARSB, Gibbs, and eventually Laporta, they have a ton of really good passing game weapons.

Williams fits a very important role for real football, but my concern is it won't be all that great for FF. Boom bust type outlook IMO. One of the reasons I moved him, beyond the fact the between the ears downside.

Can he be a Mike Wallace? Or a healthy Will Fuller? Both put up great stats as more of a vertical threat if I remember correctly. Neither were hardly their own teams wr1.

With Goff? My concern would be a Sammy Watkins situation. The hope would be that he fills the role more similar to Brandin Cooks, which seems possible.

Detroit was the 3rd ranked offense last year and 7th in passing yards. They may be even better this year. Goff certainly wasn't the problem last year.

Williamson is going to have to earn targets when he gets back from suspension. I don't see the offense running through him anytime soon. I do see Gibbs and Amon- Ra dominating touches this season.

[Bronco Billy]

If DET isn’t going to use Williams on skinny posts, slants, and out patterns then they ought to just trade him to a team with more brain power. Williams’ foundation is his speed, but that speed set him up on those other patterns and he was lethal on them, especially the slants. He’d get the ball crossing the field and be past the defenders before they even realized how badly they misjudged their attack angle.

[ericanadian]

Can he be a Mike Wallace? Or a healthy Will Fuller? Both put up great stats as more of a vertical threat if I remember correctly. Neither were hardly their own teams wr1.

With Goff? My concern would be a Sammy Watkins situation. The hope would be that he fills the role more similar to Brandin Cooks, which seems possible.

Detroit was the 3rd ranked offense last year and 7th in passing yards. They may be even better this year. Goff certainly wasn't the problem last year.

Williamson is going to have to earn targets when he gets back from suspension. I don't see the offense running through him anytime soon. I do see Gibbs and Amon- Ra dominating touches this season.

Goff can put up yards. He did so with McVay as well. He just has a mediocre deep ball. Watkins clearly had issues of his own, so his production certainly wasn’t all on Goff, but there’s plenty of video of Goff missing on deep balls back with the Rams. There’s a reason the Rams moved him for Stafford.

[ThirdWW]

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The issue with them drafting Gibbs, for FF purposes, is it makes sense tactically, to have Jameson running a lot of 9 routes (clearout routes), in order to set up pass attempts for Gibbs in space. Had the Lions taken a guard, or DE in the first round, there really wouldn't be as much to worry about in this regard, with a guy like Monty there.

I don't think Jameson Williams is going to be a high target WR. I think he'll have some big games, but I don't think he's going to be getting a high target share, like a lot of other teams "WR1". With ARSB, Gibbs, and eventually Laporta, they have a ton of really good passing game weapons.

Williams fits a very important role for real football, but my concern is it won't be all that great for FF. Boom bust type outlook IMO. One of the reasons I moved him, beyond the fact the between the ears downside.
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This is the best answer I’ve seen here. Also the reason I traded him away as a Lions homer.

[Ice]

With Goff? My concern would be a Sammy Watkins situation. The hope would be that he fills the role more similar to Brandin Cooks, which seems possible.

Detroit was the 3rd ranked offense last year and 7th in passing yards. They may be even better this year. Goff certainly wasn't the problem last year.

Williamson is going to have to earn targets when he gets back from suspension. I don't see the offense running through him anytime soon. I do see Gibbs and Amon- Ra dominating touches this season.

Goff can put up yards. He did so with McVay as well. He just has a mediocre deep ball. Watkins clearly had issues of his own, so his production certainly wasn’t all on Goff, but there’s plenty of video of Goff missing on deep balls back with the Rams. There’s a reason the Rams moved him for Stafford.

There is also a reason the lions didn’t move up to 1.1.

Goff isn’t perfect but he isn’t the problem. I also expect him to throw it plenty to Williamson on posts and slants and deep but it’s a major stretch if one believes he will take over as the 1 over Amon in a while.

Goff is better than many think IMO. Stafford served a purpose for sure but no way Detroit would swap back today.

[Gazzerk]

Would anyone send him straight for the 1.06 in a 1QB? That’s likely looking at Flowers/Charb/Miller etc area. It may be an option for me but I am still pretty high on Jameson. I think I’d rather “gamble” on his upside than any of the guys in that 1.06 range.

[j4pac]

I traded him earlier today, along with Murray, K Herbert, and Brian Robinson for Pollard and 1.07. I wasn’t going to be able to retain Murray, Robinson, or Herbert anyway. I’m honestly a little bit relieved to get rid of both Murray and Jameson. I could easily be selling low, but their personalities honestly scare me. I’m excited about Pollard

[Orenthal Shames]

6 game suspension for gambling. His career is off to a great start.