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Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:37 am
by SoftwoodGrampian
Bronco Billy wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:21 am
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:08 am He’s going to be replaced after the year by a top 3 QB selection.
How does ATL get a top 3 QB selection given the makeup of the rest of the team? This is a team that ought to finish near .500. Vegas has their O/U at 8.5 wins.
Vegas is an excellent place to begin projecting. 8.5 sounds nice but even the worst teams have a total O/U of 6.5 (Texans, Bucs) They’re putting the Falcons in a range of teams that are projected to do (below) average, it’s not an outstanding projection.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:25 am
by Jason3123
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:37 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:21 am
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:08 am He’s going to be replaced after the year by a top 3 QB selection.
How does ATL get a top 3 QB selection given the makeup of the rest of the team? This is a team that ought to finish near .500. Vegas has their O/U at 8.5 wins.
Vegas is an excellent place to begin projecting. 8.5 sounds nice but even the worst teams have a total O/U of 6.5 (Texans, Bucs) They’re putting the Falcons in a range of teams that are projected to do (below) average, it’s not an outstanding projection.
This has more to do with the betting market, not an outright projection.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:23 pm
by SoftwoodGrampian
Jason3123 wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:25 am
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:37 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:21 am

How does ATL get a top 3 QB selection given the makeup of the rest of the team? This is a team that ought to finish near .500. Vegas has their O/U at 8.5 wins.
Vegas is an excellent place to begin projecting. 8.5 sounds nice but even the worst teams have a total O/U of 6.5 (Texans, Bucs) They’re putting the Falcons in a range of teams that are projected to do (below) average, it’s not an outstanding projection.
This has more to do with the betting market, not an outright projection.
Right. And the O/U is set based on a loose projection and normalizes with betting. My guess is everyone will be betting the under and the line will move accordingly.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:32 pm
by Bronco Billy
So ATL was 7-10 last year and the expectation is that they’ll be the same or worse? Seems off to me a bit.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:47 pm
by Jason3123
Ridder would have to be such a dumpster fire. Their defense is significantly better going into this year.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:57 pm
by Jigga94
I'd honestly put them in strong consideration for that division. Favorite is NO, but ATL wouldn't surprise me at all if they won either. Haven't looked at schedules but ATL finished last in the division so I assume theirs is easiest.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:02 pm
by FantasyFreak
Jigga94 wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:57 pm I'd honestly put them in strong consideration for that division. Favorite is NO, but ATL wouldn't surprise me at all if they won either. Haven't looked at schedules but ATL finished last in the division so I assume theirs is easiest.
Saints have a significant edge at QB. I think 9 wins takes that division.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:35 pm
by Jason3123
Jigga94 wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:57 pm I'd honestly put them in strong consideration for that division. Favorite is NO, but ATL wouldn't surprise me at all if they won either. Haven't looked at schedules but ATL finished last in the division so I assume theirs is easiest.
Warren Sharp projected the Saints and Falcons as the top 2 easiest schedules by quite a margin.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:17 pm
by FantasyFreak
Worst starting QB in the NFL, and it's not really close at this point. Amazing that Arthur Smith is willing to go down this way.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:59 pm
by StripesOfKC
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:17 pm Worst starting QB in the NFL, and it's not really close at this point. Amazing that Arthur Smith is willing to go down this way.
Yep Wilson or Fields at least break off a nice play every now and then

Ridder was not all that good in college or possessing of any kind of special trait. I thought very highly of Arthur Smith as an OC but it turns out he's just a bum. Setting up that Ridder/Tyler Allgeier/Jonnu Smith offense just to "own" the fantasy crowd by proving the forward pass is unnecessary

One of the few spots I think would be good for Kyler Murray if Arizona is actually in position for Caleb

Though knowing Art he'll bring in Justin Fields or something

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:10 pm
by cazzie33
StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:59 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:17 pm Worst starting QB in the NFL, and it's not really close at this point. Amazing that Arthur Smith is willing to go down this way.
Yep Wilson or Fields at least break off a nice play every now and then

Ridder was not all that good in college or possessing of any kind of special trait. I thought very highly of Arthur Smith as an OC but it turns out he's just a bum. Setting up that Ridder/Tyler Allgeier/Jonnu Smith offense just to "own" the fantasy crowd by proving the forward pass is unnecessary

One of the few spots I think would be good for Kyler Murray if Arizona is actually in position for Caleb

Though knowing Art he'll bring in Justin Fields or something
Or Tanneyhill who knows the system :doh:

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:13 pm
by Oddball456
I had decent hopes for Ridder as my young QB3 on my roster, so far I have been been so wrong and really hurting my Pitts share.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:33 pm
by Shoreline Steamers
Jason3123 wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:47 pm Ridder would have to be such a dumpster fire. Their defense is significantly better going into this year.
Nailed it! :wink:

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:50 pm
by ericanadian
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:17 pm Worst starting QB in the NFL, and it's not really close at this point. Amazing that Arthur Smith is willing to go down this way.
Based on what? Atlanta is low twenties on most major stats. He’s certainlly not good, but he’s flashed here and there. Early to tell at this point.

Re: Desmond Ridder

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:55 pm
by dynastyninja
He'll be the starter next year