Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:09 am
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Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:11 am
Love Burrow, but it's always been Lawrence and still is. Kinda bummed my SF leagues where I owned Burrow and 1.01 both folded, but at least I have Lawrence/Fields in my SF Devy league.
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:20 pm
I was already in the Lawrence > Burrow camp, but Lawrence as a Jag tilts this even more in his favor over Burrow for me.
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:22 pm
For sure. I was hesitant on taking over Burrow for the NYJ situation. However, that CIN situation looks like crap too. Burrow took an absolute beating this year.
It's Lawrence by a bit for me now
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:41 pm
Pre knee - Burrow
Post knee - Depends if Burrow still wants to run the ball
Post knee - Depends if Burrow still wants to run the ball
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:43 pm
Lawrence was a superior rushing threat even before any concerns because of Burrow's knee injury.cantguardjake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:41 pm Pre knee - Burrow
Post knee - Depends if Burrow still wants to run the ball
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:50 pm
Their rushing yardage over their final 2 years of college are almost identical (not sure how sacks play into this at the college level though), and Burrow doesn’t run like a baby giraffe.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:43 pmLawrence was a superior rushing threat even before any concerns because of Burrow's knee injury.cantguardjake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:41 pm Pre knee - Burrow
Post knee - Depends if Burrow still wants to run the ball
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:11 pm
This. Burrow is a bit slower. He isnt breaking any big ones to say the least. He also had about as many rushes as he did Sacks. Those were the hits I was more worried aboutbjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:43 pmLawrence was a superior rushing threat even before any concerns because of Burrow's knee injury.cantguardjake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:41 pm Pre knee - Burrow
Post knee - Depends if Burrow still wants to run the ball
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:51 pm
Do many quarterbacks not named Lamar break big ones in the NFL though (Danny Dimes maybeJigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:11 pmThis. Burrow is a bit slower. He isnt breaking any big ones to say the least. He also had about as many rushes as he did Sacks. Those were the hits I was more worried aboutbjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:43 pmLawrence was a superior rushing threat even before any concerns because of Burrow's knee injury.cantguardjake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:41 pm Pre knee - Burrow
Post knee - Depends if Burrow still wants to run the ball
). I wouldn’t put too much stock in a college QBs rushing ability unless it is actually a primary part of their college game (ie Lamar and Kyler). It’s a bonus when they have the ability to pick up an extra 2-3 points a game (hence my comment re: Burrow), but that’s all Lawrence will be at the next level in terms of rushing, and I like Burrow more as a QB.
Josh Allen only averaged 26 yards rushing a game and he’s built like Hercules compared to Lawrence.
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:00 pm
I have Allen over both and agree that passing is where most of QB value should come from (exceptions being Lamar, Kyler... Danny Dimescantguardjake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:51 pmDo many quarterbacks not named Lamar break big ones in the NFL though (Danny Dimes maybe
I wouldn’t put too much stock in a college QBs rushing ability unless it is actually a primary part of their college game (ie Lamar and Kyler). It’s a bonus when they have the ability to pick up an extra 2-3 points a game (hence my comment re: Burrow), but that’s all Lawrence will be at the next level in terms of rushing, and I like Burrow more as a QB.
Josh Allen only averaged 26 yards rushing a game and he’s built like Hercules compared to Lawrence.
)You had just originally stated that your decision hinged on whether or not Burrow will be running the ball. That's a bit strange if you don't value it highly in these 2 QB anyway. Which I do not think people should, but Lawrence seems quicker/more athletic.
Regardless, I'd expect more plays from Lawrence on the ground and think he ends up the better QB overall
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:30 pm
My comment was more meaning Burrow without the ability to add a bonus 2-3 points a game through rushing (ie post ACL) makes it a tougher decision for me with Lawrence.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:00 pmI have Allen over both and agree that passing is where most of QB value should come from (exceptions being Lamar, Kyler... Danny Dimescantguardjake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:51 pmDo many quarterbacks not named Lamar break big ones in the NFL though (Danny Dimes maybe
I wouldn’t put too much stock in a college QBs rushing ability unless it is actually a primary part of their college game (ie Lamar and Kyler). It’s a bonus when they have the ability to pick up an extra 2-3 points a game (hence my comment re: Burrow), but that’s all Lawrence will be at the next level in terms of rushing, and I like Burrow more as a QB.
Josh Allen only averaged 26 yards rushing a game and he’s built like Hercules compared to Lawrence.
You had just originally stated that your decision hinged on whether or not Burrow will be running the ball. That's a bit strange if you don't value it highly in these 2 QB anyway. Which I do not think people should, but Lawrence seems quicker/more athletic.
Regardless, I'd expect more plays from Lawrence on the ground and think he ends up the better QB overall
Pre ACL I see their NFL rushing upside to be fairly similar so lean Burrow as I like him as the better QB, I don’t think I clarified that very well
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:46 pm
X2Dibbles wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:26 pm Give me Burrow, I almost always side with proven results over potential hype - and not sure what more you need to see in a first year on an abysmal team, he is clearly legit. Not doubting Lawrence’s talent or potential, but I really like what I’ve seen thus far with Burrow.
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:47 pm
Still taking Lawrence. Not sure what Burrow does better than Lawrence, but it's probably very little.
Lawrence is a boring prospect to talk about because we've known he's supposed to be great since high school. #1 HS QB. #1 HS overall prospect. Won a national title as a freshman. Effortlessly made ACC defenses look dumb for 3 years.
He's an Andrew Luck-level prospect.
Not sure why the Jaguars are going with Urban Meyer though when better NFL options are available.
Lawrence is a boring prospect to talk about because we've known he's supposed to be great since high school. #1 HS QB. #1 HS overall prospect. Won a national title as a freshman. Effortlessly made ACC defenses look dumb for 3 years.
He's an Andrew Luck-level prospect.
Not sure why the Jaguars are going with Urban Meyer though when better NFL options are available.
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:49 am
Definitely not an Andrew Luck level prospect but maybe I’m in the minority.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:47 pm Still taking Lawrence. Not sure what Burrow does better than Lawrence, but it's probably very little.
Lawrence is a boring prospect to talk about because we've known he's supposed to be great since high school. #1 HS QB. #1 HS overall prospect. Won a national title as a freshman. Effortlessly made ACC defenses look dumb for 3 years.
He's an Andrew Luck-level prospect.
Not sure why the Jaguars are going with Urban Meyer though when better NFL options are available.
Re: Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:07 am
I have Burrow. I also have the 1.2 pick. (1QB league). Also have 1.6. Considering seeing what I can get for Burrow and drafting Lawrence. What do you think I could get for Burrow?