Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:39 am
Queen, and IMO it’s not close.TheBelgian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:41 pm Would you rather have Simmons or Queen in tackle heavy leagues?
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Queen, and IMO it’s not close.TheBelgian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:41 pm Would you rather have Simmons or Queen in tackle heavy leagues?
I though it would favor Queen, but I didn't think there was a big gap.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:39 amQueen, and IMO it’s not close.TheBelgian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:41 pm Would you rather have Simmons or Queen in tackle heavy leagues?
AkaliWarrior wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:44 pm Logan Wilson deserves to be higher in this ranking. He's right behind Kenneth Murray, and will overtake him if Murray doesn't play all 3 downs. I'd also rather have Queen over Simmons. Also, Phillips is a steal. Someone has to play in Cleveland and he's going undrafted in some leagues. Should open the season as a 3 down MLB right off the bat. Talent isn't great, but opportunity is awesome.
Queen
Simmons
*****
Murray
Wilson
****
Gay
****
Phillips
****
Baun
Brooks
****
Davis-Gaither
Chaisson (if he gets classified as a DE, he's gold Jerry...gold)
Terrell Lewis
Malik Harrison
Davion Taylor
Josh Uche
Troy Dye
Whoever is cheaperTheBelgian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:41 pm Would you rather have Simmons or Queen in tackle heavy leagues?
I swapped Kiser for Simmons straight up after week 2 for a team going nowhere this season. I snagged Kiser in round 10 of our rookie and FA draft so to flip him for a guy taken in the 2nd was a huge win. As you said, obviously there is worry when he has done so little early on but they have some solid guys in front of him so I guess the expectation of him being an immediate LB1 or LB2 were probably wishful thinking.FiremanEd wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:49 pm I dealt Kirksey for Simmons the week before Kirksey went down. Took a long term approach on it that the talent and draft capital will eventually win out. He could bust, but worth the risk for me. 4 games isn’t changing my perspective that much, despite the disappointing start. Not why he’s being forced at ILB with the current depth chart. Jones out could change thing however.
It’s not a win when the guy you traded away is outproducing the guy you got - in this case by a wide margin.failblazer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:58 am I swapped Kiser for Simmons straight up after week 2 for a team going nowhere this season. I snagged Kiser in round 10 of our rookie and FA draft so to flip him for a guy taken in the 2nd was a huge win. As you said, obviously there is worry when he has done so little early on but they have some solid guys in front of him so I guess the expectation of him being an immediate LB1 or LB2 were probably wishful thinking.
Honestly, I don't need him to produce right now. You're right, if I needed a guy to jam into my lineup for this season I'd have held Kiser but I am 1-4 and lucky to be doing that well. This team is a total rebuild that won't be competing until next year at the very earliest (and likely not until 2022). I'm not a Simmons guy to be honest but I'll take a gamble on his upside over Kiser who I think is an average player in a good situation. Littleton is a better player and has disappeared since leaving the Rams and Kiser could do the same if they don't resign him after next year.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:48 amIt’s not a win when the guy you traded away is outproducing the guy you got - in this case by a wide margin.failblazer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:58 am I swapped Kiser for Simmons straight up after week 2 for a team going nowhere this season. I snagged Kiser in round 10 of our rookie and FA draft so to flip him for a guy taken in the 2nd was a huge win. As you said, obviously there is worry when he has done so little early on but they have some solid guys in front of him so I guess the expectation of him being an immediate LB1 or LB2 were probably wishful thinking.
This draft capital mentality stops as soon as the guys put on the pads and accumulate stats. Then it’s all about talent, fit, and opportunity.
Kiser has all 3. Simmons is missing on at least two of those right now, and there’s no telling if it will ever change. How many times have we seen NFL teams accumulate multiple high 1st rounders on their rosters and continue to fail. Don’t be the Lions or Raiders of your FF league.