Is Sutton's value driven solely by who Denver brings in to play QB next? If they bring a Bridgewater/Roethlisberger type, where would you value Sutton?The Fantasy Footballers wrote:From weeks 2 to 6, Sutton finished as a WR1 in three of five games. In that time span, he was the WR8 in target share at 28.1% and the WR4 in air yards share at 46.9%. All signs pointed to a very productive season, albeit without Jerry Jeudy in the lineup. However, from weeks 7 to 13 – which included the return of Jeudy – Sutton’s volume has taken a drastic decline. In the last seven games, Sutton has averaged a measly 3.8 targets per game for only a 13.1% target share, only ranking as the WR86 in PPR points per game since week 7.
The Courtland Sutton Thread
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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread
I feel Sutton could be a high end WR2 with a good QB in town. Not going to be easy unless DEN can orchestrate a trade. He should be valued as a mid-late 1st if they solve the QB problem. If Teddy comes back, Sutton is maybe a 2nd rounder at best.
The talent is obvious. The bad QB and playcalling situation is equally as obvious. Oh, and ditto everything I said for Jeudy too.
The talent is obvious. The bad QB and playcalling situation is equally as obvious. Oh, and ditto everything I said for Jeudy too.
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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread
I feel like Sutton is close be being called injury prone. Do you all see that too or am I off?
Regardless, I won't be targeting or buying low on him unless Rodgers or Wilson end up in Denver, and at that point, his value will jump, so I won't be buying low.
Regardless, I won't be targeting or buying low on him unless Rodgers or Wilson end up in Denver, and at that point, his value will jump, so I won't be buying low.
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If I controlled Miami, I'd pay him what Denver is paying, then cut Devante Parker and Fuller. It would be nice to see Sutton with Waddle and Gesicki. $15M/yr is a fair price for Sutton, especially when I consider that Parker is making $12M+, Fuller is making $10M+, and neither of them has helped Miami win a single game this season.nathanq42 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:56 pm Back on track. What would you pay for Sutton? By all of your accounts he is a very good player, but the box scores outside of 3 games this season dont really reflect the enthusiasm people have for him as a player. Seems like there might be a decent buy low opportunity here since he hasnt really popped yet
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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread
Sutton's major issue has always been his pedestrian separation ability. Better DB's shut him down. I always thought he was a very poor man's Mike Evans in that he could flash like Evans a few times per year but he simply can't maintain seasons Like Evans. Evans can still beat top DB's something Sutton simply can't with a somewhat limited route tree.
Injuries are a concern but I do agree he needs a great QB to drive up his value. Never owned him and while he is pretty good once in a while, his consistency is the major issue. He disappears often as evidence by 8 single digit games. His target numbers are horrid outside of 4 games.
I view him as a better NFL player than a fantasy player.
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I remember when people were talking about Suttons route running improving to the point he would be better than Jeudy lolIce wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:48 amSutton's major issue has always been his pedestrian separation ability. Better DB's shut him down. I always thought he was a very poor man's Mike Evans in that he could flash like Evans a few times per year but he simply can't maintain seasons Like Evans. Evans can still beat top DB's something Sutton simply can't with a somewhat limited route tree.
Injuries are a concern but I do agree he needs a great QB to drive up his value. Never owned him and while he is pretty good once in a while, his consistency is the major issue. He disappears often as evidence by 8 single digit games. His target numbers are horrid outside of 4 games.
I view him as a better NFL player than a fantasy player.
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Sutton will be fine long term. Bridgewater is just awful. Lol @ Elway.
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Maybe, if they ever prioritize QB... Suttons value could tank harder if they don't. He's there 4 more years and will be 27 next year. He's not someone I want to invest in right now personallySpace Cowboy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:19 am Sutton will be fine long term. Bridgewater is just awful. Lol @ Elway.
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He was fine in the first month/6 weeks. Bridgewater was actually throwing downfield, then the honeymoon phase ended and he turned back into a scared check down backup.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:22 amMaybe, if they ever prioritize QB... Suttons value could tank harder if they don't. He's there 4 more years and will be 27 next year. He's not someone I want to invest in right now personallySpace Cowboy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:19 am Sutton will be fine long term. Bridgewater is just awful. Lol @ Elway.
You don't even need to be all that accurate, just let Sutton get it. Lock is gone but at this point but he might even be a look although the TOs will kill them IRL.
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