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MrUbuto wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:17 pm I think it's pretty ridiculous to call HH injury prone. Hes had one pretty fluky injury, same thing as deshaun watskn

It's been more than one, but I tend to agree that the injuries aren't ones that I worry about recurring. Now if he has another random injury this year, then yeah he's just made of glass

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:27 pm

MrUbuto wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:17 pm I think it's pretty ridiculous to call HH injury prone. Hes had one pretty fluky injury, same thing as deshaun watskn

It's been more than one, but I tend to agree that the injuries aren't ones that I worry about recurring. Now if he has another random injury this year, then yeah he's just made of glass

Henry has had a concussion, an ACL tear, a lacerated Kidney and a knee fracture in 3 seasons. I don't know what injury prone is, if it's not an injury plus every year. Guys call Wentz injury prone, but he's had an ACL/LCL, back and head injury, in 4 seasons. One less, in one more season, for instance. Based on HH injuries, he's more likely (prone) to be hurt than a player who hasn't had as many. It could just be bad luck, but he seems more likely to suffer that bad luck than others. I don't really hold the concussion as much to worry about, as sadly it's a part of football, for most players at one time or another. Unless you are like Cooks who has had a bunch of them, then you need to start worrying about those more.

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:47 pm

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:27 pm

MrUbuto wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:17 pm I think it's pretty ridiculous to call HH injury prone. Hes had one pretty fluky injury, same thing as deshaun watskn

It's been more than one, but I tend to agree that the injuries aren't ones that I worry about recurring. Now if he has another random injury this year, then yeah he's just made of glass

Henry has had a concussion, an ACL tear, a lacerated Kidney and a knee fracture in 3 seasons. I don't know what injury prone is, if it's not an injury plus every year. Guys call Wentz injury prone, but he's had an ACL/LCL, back and head injury, in 4 seasons. One less, in one more season, for instance. Based on HH injuries, he's more likely (prone) to be hurt than a player who hasn't had as many. It could just be bad luck, but he seems more likely to suffer that bad luck than others. I don't really hold the concussion as much to worry about, as sadly it's a part of football, for most players at one time or another. Unless you are like Cooks who has had a bunch of them, then you need to start worrying about those more.

But you think a lacerated kidney is something to hold agaisnt him? Of all the injuries he's sustained, the concussion is the only one that gives me any level of concern about him health-wise as that can become reoccurring. The ACL was just taking a bad step on a non-contact drill in the offseason and broken bones typically don't go on to be issues unless there is nerve damage or something, but he came back fine from that so no reason to be concerned. He went through college without any injury issues, but in the NFL just had some bad luck with several completely unrelated injuries that could happen to any football player at anytime.

As for Tyrod, I think he would actually be excellent for Henry's fantasy production, he targets the TE a lot and made Charles Clay a weekly starter. Even Henry's biggest detractors will acknowledge Henry is a massive step up from Clay as a receiving talent. I think Henry is in or near the top 5 of TEs this year.

bjd5211 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:04 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:47 pm

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:27 pm

It's been more than one, but I tend to agree that the injuries aren't ones that I worry about recurring. Now if he has another random injury this year, then yeah he's just made of glass

Henry has had a concussion, an ACL tear, a lacerated Kidney and a knee fracture in 3 seasons. I don't know what injury prone is, if it's not an injury plus every year. Guys call Wentz injury prone, but he's had an ACL/LCL, back and head injury, in 4 seasons. One less, in one more season, for instance. Based on HH injuries, he's more likely (prone) to be hurt than a player who hasn't had as many. It could just be bad luck, but he seems more likely to suffer that bad luck than others. I don't really hold the concussion as much to worry about, as sadly it's a part of football, for most players at one time or another. Unless you are like Cooks who has had a bunch of them, then you need to start worrying about those more.

But you think a lacerated kidney is something to hold agaisnt him? Of all the injuries he's sustained, the concussion is the only one that gives me any level of concern about him health-wise as that can become reoccurring. The ACL was just taking a bad step on a non-contact drill in the offseason and broken bones typically don't go on to be issues unless there is nerve damage or something, but he came back fine from that so no reason to be concerned. He went through college without any injury issues, but in the NFL just had some bad luck with several completely unrelated injuries that could happen to any football player at anytime.

As for Tyrod, I think he would actually be excellent for Henry's fantasy production, he targets the TE a lot and made Charles Clay a weekly starter. Even Henry's biggest detractors will acknowledge Henry is a massive step up from Clay as a receiving talent. I think Henry is in or near the top 5 of TEs this year.

No. Look, people can try and justify or explain the injuries however they want, it's irrelevant. In his 3 years in the league, he's shown to be a player that gets hurt. As I previously stated "it could just be bad luck, but he seems more likely to suffer that bad luck than others." That's just how it is. Sure that list of injuries could happen to anyone at any time, but they didn't. They happened to him.

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:25 pm No. Look, people can try and justify or explain the injuries however they want, it's irrelevant. In his 3 years in the league, he's shown to be a player that gets hurt. As I previously stated "it could just be bad luck, but he seems more likely to suffer that bad luck than others." That's just how it is. Sure that list of injuries could happen to anyone at any time, but they didn't. They happened to him.

I think you're being fair by the letter of the law of "injury prone". However, and I know you love me - but! Devils advocate:

This is not like a repeat tear of the same ACL, or a problematic knee in a degenerative state a la Gurley. These are randomised football injuries, and he has recovered from each appearing no worse for wear.

The point being - that there is still a valuable dynasty asset there, who is immensely skilled, and isn't damaged goods (yet)

mild wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:43 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:25 pm No. Look, people can try and justify or explain the injuries however they want, it's irrelevant. In his 3 years in the league, he's shown to be a player that gets hurt. As I previously stated "it could just be bad luck, but he seems more likely to suffer that bad luck than others." That's just how it is. Sure that list of injuries could happen to anyone at any time, but they didn't. They happened to him.

I think you're being fair by the letter of the law of "injury prone". However, and I know you love me - but! Devils advocate:

This is not like a repeat tear of the same ACL, or a problematic knee in a degenerative state a la Gurley. These are randomised football injuries, and he has recovered from each appearing no worse for wear.

The point being - that there is still a valuable dynasty asset there, who is immensely skilled, and isn't damaged goods (yet)

No doubt. Not arguing that.

His injuries are more Keenan Allen than Todd Gurley or even Will Fuller (recurring soft tissue).

jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:09 pm His injuries are more Keenan Allen than Todd Gurley or even Will Fuller (recurring soft tissue).

Except Henry had an ACL tear which is exactly what led to Gurley's arthritis. Probably not the best example to use.

djeternal2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:26 am

jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:09 pm His injuries are more Keenan Allen than Todd Gurley or even Will Fuller (recurring soft tissue).

Except Henry had an ACL tear which is exactly what led to Gurley's arthritis. Probably not the best example to use.

Yeah 1000 carries later... they play different positions, so the example was fine. How many professional athletes that tear their ACLs end up with Gurley degenerative knee case?

Hunter Henry catching passes from Tom Brady sounds like the makings of a great 2020 season for him. I hope Brady chooses LA.

djeternal2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:26 am

jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:09 pm His injuries are more Keenan Allen than Todd Gurley or even Will Fuller (recurring soft tissue).

Except Henry had an ACL tear which is exactly what led to Gurley's arthritis. Probably not the best example to use.

Except Keenan Allen ALSO suffered an ACL tear in 2016...

Kmani6 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:51 am

djeternal2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:26 am

jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:09 pm His injuries are more Keenan Allen than Todd Gurley or even Will Fuller (recurring soft tissue).

Except Henry had an ACL tear which is exactly what led to Gurley's arthritis. Probably not the best example to use.

Yeah 1000 carries later... they play different positions, so the example was fine. How many professional athletes that tear their ACLs end up with Gurley degenerative knee case?

Well the degenerative knee case you are talking about is arthritis. And arthritis is likely for anyone who has had ACL reconstructive surgery. We just usually don't hear about it because for most players it happens towards the end of the career or after. But Gurley has shown it can happen sooner rather than later. Some docs are already talking about Tua having arthritis in his hip and does it develop in 5 years? 10 years? No way to know until it happens.

bjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:02 am

djeternal2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:26 am

jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:09 pm His injuries are more Keenan Allen than Todd Gurley or even Will Fuller (recurring soft tissue).

Except Henry had an ACL tear which is exactly what led to Gurley's arthritis. Probably not the best example to use.

Except Keenan Allen ALSO suffered an ACL tear in 2016...

I had forgotten about Keenan's ACL. So are you saying the poster meant Henry's ACL tear is more like Keenan's ACL than Gurley's? If so, I'm glad we got a bunch of doctors on the boards here.

I like the prospects of Brady to Henry. Maybe one of the best potential outcomes for Henry.

CGW wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:20 am I like the prospects of Brady to Henry. Maybe one of the best potential outcomes for Henry.