James Conner

[ArrylT]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -big-plays

Not really fantasy relevant - just glad to read that Conner & Bell are on good terms.

[Shcritters]

I think this Connor guy is going to be around a while.

[C_n_red_again]

Boy I hope the Connor haters, and there were many, have the stones to come back on here and tell us how that crow tastes. Connor is a legitimately good Rb and those guys who continue to doubt this aren’t watching him play.

[Phaded]

I still don't think he looks special and could be replaced easier than many are thinking.

He has great fantasy numbers but there are large abundance of running backs who put up nice stats in a short time frame and then fell off the face of the earth. I think there is a decent chance Conner does not sniff this again in future years.

The biggest thing in his favour right now is volume and situation. That is always risky to rely on.

[jenkins.math]

I still don't think he looks special and could be replaced easier than many are thinking.

He has great fantasy numbers but there are large abundance of running backs who put up nice stats in a short time frame and then fell off the face of the earth. I think there is a decent chance Conner does not sniff this again in future years.

The biggest thing in his favour right now is volume and situation. That is always risky to rely on.

Come on bro. Give the man his due. He has improved tremendously since last year in virtually every facet of his game.

If you're going to claim Ito Smith is good, dont dump on Conner who looks like a far superior player both in real life and fantasy.

[Cameron Giles]

Boy I hope the Connor haters, and there were many, have the stones to come back on here and tell us how that crow tastes. Connor is a legitimately good Rb and those guys who continue to doubt this aren’t watching him play.

I don't think he's garbage, but I think he's replaceable. He's playing well, but I still don't see him as a long-term guy right now. But, I'll give him credit. I think more of him than I did 3-4 weeks ago.

[jenkins.math]

I mean how many RBs are really long term guys though and "special"? Everyone dumping on Conner to me reads like sour grapes. Even Todd Gurley struggled his last year with Fisher as the HC. Then McVay got there and made him look like the 2nd coming of LT. You dont think Kamara benefits from playing in NOLA with Sean Payton and that offense? Is Kareem Hunt some superior talent or is he a good RB in a great system? Sure Conner benefits from the system, but dont you think Lev Bell has also benefitted from the system?

It really works for all positions. Adams wouldn't be the same without without Rodgers. There is a convo on here about taking Tyreek Hill over Michael Thomas because you have more faith in Mahomes the next 4 years than Brees.

There are very few guys at RB that are truly great no matter what and those guys are super rare. Adrian Peterson is one that comes to mind. I think Zeke would be great anywhere. Saquon looks like a bigger Barry Sanders. Every other back has benefitted from a great situation, yet we for some reason want to poop on Conner and Conner only. I feel like we have a lot of butt hurt Lev Bell owners in denial.

[C_n_red_again]

Jenkins that’s a good post. You could argue he’s been a better Le’Veon Bell. At least that’s what the stats say. Also according to pff he’s leading the league in broken tackles. I guess average rbs do that to lol

[dipANDglide]

Boy I hope the Connor haters, and there were many, have the stones to come back on here and tell us how that crow tastes. Connor is a legitimately good Rb and those guys who continue to doubt this aren’t watching him play.

I don't think he's garbage, but I think he's replaceable. He's playing well, but I still don't see him as a long-term guy right now. But, I'll give him credit. I think more of him than I did 3-4 weeks ago.

It’s time to change gears with the above thinking. I thought the same as you and have to give the man his due. He’s playing possessed right now. I would be surprised if he’s not splitting carries with Bell and is the bellcow after this year. He is doin everything you ask of him and more. Plus, he’s got his teammates respect and is beloved in Pitt.

Stock up, Conner. Stock down, Bell.

[heyfeefellskee]

I mean how many RBs are really long term guys though and "special"? Everyone dumping on Conner to me reads like sour grapes. Even Todd Gurley struggled his last year with Fisher as the HC. Then McVay got there and made him look like the 2nd coming of LT. You dont think Kamara benefits from playing in NOLA with Sean Payton and that offense? Is Kareem Hunt some superior talent or is he a good RB in a great system? Sure Conner benefits from the system, but dont you think Lev Bell has also benefitted from the system?

It really works for all positions. Adams wouldn't be the same without without Rodgers. There is a convo on here about taking Tyreek Hill over Michael Thomas because you have more faith in Mahomes the next 4 years than Brees.

There are very few guys at RB that are truly great no matter what and those guys are super rare. Adrian Peterson is one that comes to mind. I think Zeke would be great anywhere. Saquon looks like a bigger Barry Sanders. Every other back has benefitted from a great situation, yet we for some reason want to poop on Conner and Conner only. I feel like we have a lot of butt hurt Lev Bell owners in denial.

This.

People were still getting off Gurley last year, even after the first 2 weeks. They thought they were a fluke! And that they were selling high!

[AussieMate]

I too was fearful of him being replaced next year, (still could be) but I do believe he has looked better in the last few weeks. I think it's a combo of him playing to his strengths and not trying to be Bell, and I also believe his oline has adjusted for his style rather then thinking he'll do what Bell does.
I could be seeing what I want to see though, I'm no oline expert.

[Cameron Giles]

Boy I hope the Connor haters, and there were many, have the stones to come back on here and tell us how that crow tastes. Connor is a legitimately good Rb and those guys who continue to doubt this aren’t watching him play.

I don't think he's garbage, but I think he's replaceable. He's playing well, but I still don't see him as a long-term guy right now. But, I'll give him credit. I think more of him than I did 3-4 weeks ago.

It’s time to change gears with the above thinking. I thought the same as you and have to give the man his due. He’s playing possessed right now. I would be surprised if he’s not splitting carries with Bell and is the bellcow after this year. He is doin everything you ask of him and more. Plus, he’s got his teammates respect and is beloved in Pitt.

Stock up, Conner. Stock down, Bell.

We've seen plenty of RBs be league winners one year and do nothing of note afterwards. The most talented RBs usually stick around. He's playing well, but I don't see him doing this every year.

[jenkins.math]

We've seen plenty of RBs be league winners one year and do nothing of note afterwards. The most talented RBs usually stick around. He's playing well, but I don't see him doing this every year.

Such as? The Conner detractors post things like this, but literally bring zero evidence or examples.

If youre talking about guys like Peyton Hillis, that's apples to oranges. Conner was a 3rd round pick, so we have the draft capital there. He put up great numbers in college, especially before cancer. So we have college productivity checked. He is in a high powered offense that whoever runs the ball is an RB1. Cheap contract for 2 years after this. Barring injury, he literally has everything you want for the next 2 years. I really dont think it's that hard to believe he keeps this up on his rookie deal in Pitt. Now after that who knows? But again, how many RBs really kill it for more than 5-6 years? Very very very few. So give me the plenty of guys with Conner's resume to just win you a league and be worthless.

Nobody is putting him in the same talent level as Saquon or Gurley, but it's hard not to put him with Kareem Hunt. Honestly him and Kareem Hunt are literally in the same situation entirely. After Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, and Kamara the second tier is pretty muddy and jumbled if you ask me. Conner belongs in the same fantasy tier as Hunt and CMC.

[Cameron Giles]

We've seen plenty of RBs be league winners one year and do nothing of note afterwards. The most talented RBs usually stick around. He's playing well, but I don't see him doing this every year.

Such as? The Conner detractors post things like this, but literally bring zero evidence or examples.

If youre talking about guys like Peyton Hillis, that's apples to oranges. Conner was a 3rd round pick, so we have the draft capital there. He put up great numbers in college, especially before cancer. So we have college productivity checked. He is in a high powered offense that whoever runs the ball is an RB1. Cheap contract for 2 years after this. Barring injury, he literally has everything you want for the next 2 years. I really dont think it's that hard to believe he keeps this up on his rookie deal in Pitt. Now after that who knows? But again, how many RBs really kill it for more than 5-6 years? Very very very few. So give me the plenty of guys with Conner's resume to just win you a league and be worthless.

Nobody is putting him in the same talent level as Saquon or Gurley, but it's hard not to put him with Kareem Hunt. Honestly him and Kareem Hunt are literally in the same situation entirely. After Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, and Kamara the second tier is pretty muddy and jumbled if you ask me. Conner belongs in the same fantasy tier as Hunt and CMC.

Jeremy Hill
CJ Anderson
Jay Ajayi
Doug Martin
Joseph Addai
Eddie Lacy
CJ Spiller
Latavius Murray
Zac Stacy
Trent Richardson

Just a few examples. I can name more. You're correct that very few RBs produce at elite levels for 5-7 years, but those are the ones you spend on. Your goal in dynasty is to avoid buying high on the ones who flame out after 1 or 2 good years.

Like I said, he's playing well and I think more of him than I did a month ago. But he doesn't strike me as a player that's so talented that he'll produce perennially at this level.

[jenkins.math]

We've seen plenty of RBs be league winners one year and do nothing of note afterwards. The most talented RBs usually stick around. He's playing well, but I don't see him doing this every year.

Such as? The Conner detractors post things like this, but literally bring zero evidence or examples.

If youre talking about guys like Peyton Hillis, that's apples to oranges. Conner was a 3rd round pick, so we have the draft capital there. He put up great numbers in college, especially before cancer. So we have college productivity checked. He is in a high powered offense that whoever runs the ball is an RB1. Cheap contract for 2 years after this. Barring injury, he literally has everything you want for the next 2 years. I really dont think it's that hard to believe he keeps this up on his rookie deal in Pitt. Now after that who knows? But again, how many RBs really kill it for more than 5-6 years? Very very very few. So give me the plenty of guys with Conner's resume to just win you a league and be worthless.

Nobody is putting him in the same talent level as Saquon or Gurley, but it's hard not to put him with Kareem Hunt. Honestly him and Kareem Hunt are literally in the same situation entirely. After Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, and Kamara the second tier is pretty muddy and jumbled if you ask me. Conner belongs in the same fantasy tier as Hunt and CMC.

Jeremy Hill
CJ Anderson
Jay Ajayi
Doug Martin
Joseph Addai
Eddie Lacy
CJ Spiller
Latavius Murray
Zac Stacy
Trent Richardson

Just a few examples. I can name more. You're correct that very few RBs produce at elite levels for 5-7 years, but those are the ones you spend on. Your goal in dynasty is to avoid buying high on the ones who flame out after 1 or 2 good years.

About half of those guys are 5th rounders or later. And other than Eddie Lacy, which one of those guys won your league? Doug Martin had one good year on a bad TB offense, so I guess him. Addai's best season was his rookie year where he put up right around 1000 yards. The rest of those guys havent had an entire season as good as Conners first half this year. You can pick plenty of flameouts if yoire just combing through the archives.

Again none of them were in the same situation as Conner. Not one of them has been productive like this, with all the other things going for him that you like in a fantasy RB, and just fallen off barring injury. You're just moving the goal posts now to try and prove your point.