1) This could describe a multitude of RBs...these aren't traits that separate Conner from other JAG RBs in the NFL. Players that come to mind are those like: Ivory, Martin, Hill, Crowell, Blount, Joique Bell, etc. All have had their moment(s) in the sun, but all are/were pretty replaceable players/talents.JFever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:01 pm I think when one says that Conner's production was / is 100% volume dependent, it is oversimplifying the situation greatly. Likely statements like that stem from some type of personal bias. 1)Conner runs hard, catches the ball well, gets North / south and takes what is given and also runs with patience . All attributes I'm sure he's soaked in from practicing with and behind L.Bell. The attributes that 2) led to his blowing up didn't just vanish people. 3)I think to an extent ALL fantasy production is dependent on some volume. 4)The fact that Conner got such a disparaging ratio of the offensive snaps over the other back ups says something. The fact that he did something with some of the volume also says something. 5)When Big Ben was on and the offense was clicking - Conner too was clicking. When Big Ben was off, pressured or 6)playing from far behind thanks to poor defensive plays and turnovers, the flow changed and Conner's production then too was less efficient. I don't believe for a second that Conner is a comparable JAG to guys like A.Abdulah. To me that point seems like a big reach.
I'm also not saying that talent alone is what it takes. Conner isn't the most talented rb in the league and.... he doesn't have to be most of the time. Talent alone does not equate to fantasy production. It sure helps, but it never is that simple. Steady production in the NFL and in Fantasy - is a combination of several factors. All of which Conner still has going for him for likely the next 2 games. If he and the Steeler's run game continue to struggle in the next two games, then, I would entertain and even consider to be someone true - some of the straight up negativity that some posters shared. The Abdullah one was a knee slapper btw.
2) It was one game. He looked good in week one, but he has not "blown up," in fact he looked barely above replacement level in his last three starts. He doesn't have this massive history to draw from. Anyone can have a blow up game, for ref see: Jonas Gray and Joseph Randle.
*Also, since you brought up bias, this is actually called Anchoring Bias. It's when ppl are over-reliant on the first piece of information they receive about a situation/player/etc. In this case, Conner having a good first game. If he sucked in his first game, but had a good second game, it's highly probable that the dynasty community would be far less infatuated with him on the whole. An okay example of this is the value of Matt Breida who had a bad week 1, but a huge week 2, and has been okay-good in weeks 3 &4.
3) Totally agree with this statement. Fantasy points are heavily correlated to volume.
4) Sorry but I disagree. It would matter if he was getting a massive workload over a competent back up, but there's no one else in that backfield. Samuels is a rookie and has had zero carries, and Ridley has only played 5 games in 3 years. He's not exactly playing over world beaters.
5) The offense was clicking in week 2 & 3. Pretty hard to put up 30 or more pts in a game if it's not. I watched every game, and he's been badddddd between the tackles. His numbers speak to this as well. In week 2 he had 8 carries for 17 yards. In week 3, if you take out the final drive of the game, he would have had 12 carries for 8 yards. And in week 4, he had 9 carries for 19 yards....but yet Conner is great and Penny/Rojo/Barber/etc are terrible...something doesn't compute here.
*Also I'm not saying he's not good in the pass game, because he's actually decent in that area of the game. He could be a 3rd/passing down and GL power back, but that's all. Right now he doesn't appear to be 3 down back because he has looked putrid between the tackles.
6) Playing from behind usually increases efficiency in RBs not the other way around, because the defensive pulls back to defend the pass and there's less guys in the box (making more and bigger holes to run thru).
I think that Conner can still be a functional player in the league, but he's not the player most make him out to be. Just because ppl aren't gushing over him doesn't mean it's a negative stance, it's just an opinion that is different. I hope I'm wrong because Conner is a great guy to cheer for given everything he's had to overcome, but after watching the games this yr, I just don't see it.
