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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Bot101 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:30 am

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:14 am Will the overwhelming majority that voted to take Deon cain and 200 FAAB dollars over hill in a pole I saw come foward? Lol
See now that to me is crazy. I would have held him if that was the best I could get. After a bunch of trades I basically gave Hill + Ekeler for Sanders, Boyd, Justice Hill, Darwin Thompson and the 11th overall pick in 2020. Thats a discount but st least I can live with that.

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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby usps33 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:32 am

I pushed for giving Tyreek the benefit of the doubt in the thread that was locked. I know this is a sensitive subject and just want to apologize for some of my comments in that thread.

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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby MattDeezy » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:57 am

How did Zeke get suspended in 2017 but Hill does not? That’s the real head scratcher for me.
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Shcritters » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:03 am

usps33 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:32 am I pushed for giving Tyreek the benefit of the doubt in the thread that was locked. I know this is a sensitive subject and just want to apologize for some of my comments in that thread.
Kudos to you sir, and more of this please (not from you in particular, but rather people owning up to past behaviors that could have been handled better). This is a great community and it only takes a few people flaming on the boards to ruin it for everyone.
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby IR1 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:34 am

MattDeezy wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:57 am How did Zeke get suspended in 2017 but Hill does not? That’s the real head scratcher for me.
That’s were I’m at!
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby kamihamster » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:05 pm

IR1 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:34 am
MattDeezy wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:57 am How did Zeke get suspended in 2017 but Hill does not? That’s the real head scratcher for me.
That’s were I’m at!
I can't remember the timeline, but first it started with him hurting his GF. She didn't seem very credible from what evidence was out there. Then the whole shirt pulling incident. Since that was on video maybe that's why they suspended him??

I feel like his audio is enough to suspend him. :think:
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby joeday » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:12 pm

Or to be fair, and I personally hate him for many reasons, how do you suspend Roethlisberger or AP or anyone that you don't have 100% concrete evidence about? I just don't get it. Again, this news has almost zero affect on my 20 teams but I am just curious how the NFL decides what is suspension worthy and what isnt?
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Lumps » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:14 pm

joeday wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:12 pm Or to be fair, and I personally hate him for many reasons, how do you suspend Roethlisberger or AP or anyone that you don't have 100% concrete evidence about? I just don't get it. Again, this news has almost zero affect on my 20 teams but I am just curious how the NFL decides what is suspension worthy and what isnt?
Yeah, I thought the Roethlisberger thing was because of "tarnishing the shield." So.... uhhh.... :think:
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Bot101 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:33 pm

See whats going to happen now is Hill will get a value bump higher than he was before all this drama happened. Cook and Guice both got bizarre value bumps after tearing their ACLs. People will forget Hill was one of the biggest boom/bust WRs out there. I just inquired on getting Hill back in my home league and his new price is MT + 2020 1.11

What.....

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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:42 pm

Bot101 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:33 pm See whats going to happen now is Hill will get a value bump higher than he was before all this drama happened. Cook and Guice both got bizarre value bumps after tearing their ACLs. People will forget Hill was one of the biggest boom/bust WRs out there. I just inquired on getting Hill back in my home league and his new price is MT + 2020 1.11

What.....
He was the WR 1 last year but yes going forward I would take Thomas
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Bot101 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:47 pm

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:42 pm
Bot101 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:33 pm See whats going to happen now is Hill will get a value bump higher than he was before all this drama happened. Cook and Guice both got bizarre value bumps after tearing their ACLs. People will forget Hill was one of the biggest boom/bust WRs out there. I just inquired on getting Hill back in my home league and his new price is MT + 2020 1.11

What.....
He was the WR 1 last year but yes going forward I would take Thomas
Yes I had Hill so I know where he finished. He also had one of or the highest bust rate of any of the WR 1s if I recall correctly. Hes just either a 30 point or 5 point guy, rarely does he rest in the middle. Id take Adams, MT, OBJ, JuJu, Hopkins and Evans over him right now.

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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Chwf3rd » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:51 pm

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:42 pm
Bot101 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:33 pm See whats going to happen now is Hill will get a value bump higher than he was before all this drama happened. Cook and Guice both got bizarre value bumps after tearing their ACLs. People will forget Hill ws one of the biggest boom/bust WRs out there. I just inquired on getting Hill back in my home league and his new price is MT + 2020 1.11

What.....
He was the WR 1 last year but yes going forward I would take Thomas
Give me the Tyreek side. Before this he had a great argument at being the WR1.
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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby grandmabetty » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:51 pm

joeday wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:12 pm Or to be fair, and I personally hate him for many reasons, how do you suspend Roethlisberger or AP or anyone that you don't have 100% concrete evidence about? I just don't get it. Again, this news has almost zero affect on my 20 teams but I am just curious how the NFL decides what is suspension worthy and what isnt?
I point to my comment on the previous page. There is 1 judge and jury and his name is Goodell. No convictions or evidence is needed and he happens to be wildly inconsistent. Granted it's not an easy job trying to maximize your profits and continue to expand the business while having the obligation to appear as those you have ethics

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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby Ray Finkle » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:55 pm

His value has to be lower than it was 6 months ago right? It is to me because I think although he escaped this time it still makes him riskier going forward. More importantly, I think it’s less likely KC extends him now than it was pre “incident”. I could be wrong though. Maybe the Chiefs know everything I do not and have fully exonerated him.

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Re: Breaking- Hill not going to be suspended

Postby djeternal2 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:25 pm

Ray Finkle wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:55 pm His value has to be lower than it was 6 months ago right? It is to me because I think although he escaped this time it still makes him riskier going forward. More importantly, I think it’s less likely KC extends him now than it was pre “incident”. I could be wrong though. Maybe the Chiefs know everything I do not and have fully exonerated him.
You'd think his value would be lower; but, I was pointed to this thread last night BEFORE the news of 0 suspension from the NFL.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=186770

I read about 5 or 6 posts before I got out of the thread and went to read something that actually made sense to me. One guy in the thread states he'd MAYBE take JuJu & Kerryon for Hill. Remember this is pre official 0 suspension news. So at this point I doubt that same guy would even think about JuJu & KJ for Hill.
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