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Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:39 am
by ajmyk
2 trades,
1st trade: Gave M. Bryant and 2.6 for Jordy and 1.9
Pretty even.
2nd trade: Gave S. Watkins, Duke Johnson, 1.9 and 2.9 for LeVeon Bell
I'm sorry this is bad. Watkins is a stud, so is LeVeon Bell but with a 2nd ACL tear in his career.
They're should be worth about the same but you gave away THREE more players to make the swap.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:45 am
by Ugga Mugga
16 Team Full IDP

Gave: 1.11

Got: 2017 1st rd pick & 2017 3rd rd pick

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:46 am
by Chandler Bing
Ugga Mugga wrote:16 Team Full IDP

Gave: 1.11

Got: 2017 1st rd pick & 2017 3rd rd pick
I like that deal for you

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:20 pm
by GoBison90
I joined a 10 man IDP dynasty league, previously owned by a Broncos-obsessed owner who traded away many picks to fill the roster with as many Denver players as possible. I came in, and I don't value many Denver guys very high in fantasy. QB situation was 2 man (Manning/Osweiler), RB situation 2 man (Hillman/CJA), WR situation 2 man (DT/Sanders). So that being said, I don't like anyone really that much. So I went into full rebuild mode and here are the trades I made:

1. Megatron + Justin Houston for 2016 5.05, 2017 1st + 4th
This was before the news of his retirement, and I was glad to get the deal even if I had to give up Houston, because I have a particular IDP strategy I like to deploy.

2. Gronk for 2016 1.09 and 2017 1st
Probably not the best deal I could have gotten for him, but my team is definitely not a contender, I wasn't going to receive a better deal from the guys, and I was eager to acquire picks

3. Jordan Reed for 2016 1.08, 4.08, 5.04, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
This one was especially hard for me to do, because I am a Redskins fan and I know he is the 2nd best TE in the league, but Reed's injuries worry me way too much and I received a good haul of picks

4. CJ Anderson for 2016 4.05, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
I know CJ is a great talent, and he deserves the job, but who knows what will go on there. I personally do believe that he should be the full time started and could produce huge numbers, but I also thought that last offseason and look where it got me...

5. Emmanuel Sanders for 2016 4.09 and 2017 2nd
Didn't receive much interest in him, but I had almost no interest in keeping him, plus the 2nd rounder I received here is from a team that should finish safely towards the bottom of the standings

6. David Cobb + Jerrick McKinnon for 2.02 and 4.10
I just wanted to make a deal, didn't value these guys highly and liked the value at 2.02

7. Demaryious Thomas for TJ Yeldon + 2017 2nd
I liked this deal a good amount, Yeldon is a young talent and I can use him as a bargaining chip to earn myself at the very least another 1st rounder

8. Josh Gordon + 2017 3rd for 2017 1st
This was when Gordon's status was unknown, and the 3rd rounder was from a big contender team

9. Kenny Bell for 2017 3rd
I just believe the guy won't get enough looks in TB, it was time for me to move on to a new lottery pick

So I now have...
1.08
1.09
2.02
4.05
4.08
4.09
4.10
5.03
5.04
5.03
5.06

2017
1st rounders: 4
2nd rounders: 6
3rd rounders: 3

Notable Players left
Fitzmagic
Osweiler
Rawls
Yeldon
Mike Evans
Rich Rodgers

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:14 pm
by Phaded
akbfrosty wrote:Gave: Todd Gurley

Received: Donte Moncrief and Kevin White

14 team ppr

Tough trade to pull the trigger on, but I like the upside it added to my WR's.
Gurley lovers will hate this one.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:38 pm
by akbfrosty
GoBison90 wrote:I joined a 10 man IDP dynasty league, previously owned by a Broncos-obsessed owner who traded away many picks to fill the roster with as many Denver players as possible. I came in, and I don't value many Denver guys very high in fantasy. QB situation was 2 man (Manning/Osweiler), RB situation 2 man (Hillman/CJA), WR situation 2 man (DT/Sanders). So that being said, I don't like anyone really that much. So I went into full rebuild mode and here are the trades I made:

1. Megatron + Justin Houston for 2016 5.05, 2017 1st + 4th
This was before the news of his retirement, and I was glad to get the deal even if I had to give up Houston, because I have a particular IDP strategy I like to deploy.

2. Gronk for 2016 1.09 and 2017 1st
Probably not the best deal I could have gotten for him, but my team is definitely not a contender, I wasn't going to receive a better deal from the guys, and I was eager to acquire picks

3. Jordan Reed for 2016 1.08, 4.08, 5.04, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
This one was especially hard for me to do, because I am a Redskins fan and I know he is the 2nd best TE in the league, but Reed's injuries worry me way too much and I received a good haul of picks

4. CJ Anderson for 2016 4.05, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
I know CJ is a great talent, and he deserves the job, but who knows what will go on there. I personally do believe that he should be the full time started and could produce huge numbers, but I also thought that last offseason and look where it got me...

5. Emmanuel Sanders for 2016 4.09 and 2017 2nd
Didn't receive much interest in him, but I had almost no interest in keeping him, plus the 2nd rounder I received here is from a team that should finish safely towards the bottom of the standings

6. David Cobb + Jerrick McKinnon for 2.02 and 4.10
I just wanted to make a deal, didn't value these guys highly and liked the value at 2.02

7. Demaryious Thomas for TJ Yeldon + 2017 2nd
I liked this deal a good amount, Yeldon is a young talent and I can use him as a bargaining chip to earn myself at the very least another 1st rounder

8. Josh Gordon + 2017 3rd for 2017 1st
This was when Gordon's status was unknown, and the 3rd rounder was from a big contender team

9. Kenny Bell for 2017 3rd
I just believe the guy won't get enough looks in TB, it was time for me to move on to a new lottery pick

So I now have...
1.08
1.09
2.02
4.05
4.08
4.09
4.10
5.03
5.04
5.03
5.06

2017
1st rounders: 4
2nd rounders: 6
3rd rounders: 3

Notable Players left
Fitzmagic
Osweiler
Rawls
Yeldon
Mike Evans
Rich Rodgers
I'm not really sure this team had to be blown up...but if you wanted to make it more "your" team, more power to ya.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:44 pm
by akbfrosty
PhadedCN wrote:
akbfrosty wrote:Gave: Todd Gurley

Received: Donte Moncrief and Kevin White

14 team ppr

Tough trade to pull the trigger on, but I like the upside it added to my WR's.
Gurley lovers will hate this one.
I had to tell myself that I win PPR through WR and not a 1st and 2nd down RB...only slightly kidding.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:33 pm
by GoBison90
akbfrosty wrote:
GoBison90 wrote:I joined a 10 man IDP dynasty league, previously owned by a Broncos-obsessed owner who traded away many picks to fill the roster with as many Denver players as possible. I came in, and I don't value many Denver guys very high in fantasy. QB situation was 2 man (Manning/Osweiler), RB situation 2 man (Hillman/CJA), WR situation 2 man (DT/Sanders). So that being said, I don't like anyone really that much. So I went into full rebuild mode and here are the trades I made:

1. Megatron + Justin Houston for 2016 5.05, 2017 1st + 4th
This was before the news of his retirement, and I was glad to get the deal even if I had to give up Houston, because I have a particular IDP strategy I like to deploy.

2. Gronk for 2016 1.09 and 2017 1st
Probably not the best deal I could have gotten for him, but my team is definitely not a contender, I wasn't going to receive a better deal from the guys, and I was eager to acquire picks

3. Jordan Reed for 2016 1.08, 4.08, 5.04, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
This one was especially hard for me to do, because I am a Redskins fan and I know he is the 2nd best TE in the league, but Reed's injuries worry me way too much and I received a good haul of picks

4. CJ Anderson for 2016 4.05, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
I know CJ is a great talent, and he deserves the job, but who knows what will go on there. I personally do believe that he should be the full time started and could produce huge numbers, but I also thought that last offseason and look where it got me...

5. Emmanuel Sanders for 2016 4.09 and 2017 2nd
Didn't receive much interest in him, but I had almost no interest in keeping him, plus the 2nd rounder I received here is from a team that should finish safely towards the bottom of the standings

6. David Cobb + Jerrick McKinnon for 2.02 and 4.10
I just wanted to make a deal, didn't value these guys highly and liked the value at 2.02

7. Demaryious Thomas for TJ Yeldon + 2017 2nd
I liked this deal a good amount, Yeldon is a young talent and I can use him as a bargaining chip to earn myself at the very least another 1st rounder

8. Josh Gordon + 2017 3rd for 2017 1st
This was when Gordon's status was unknown, and the 3rd rounder was from a big contender team

9. Kenny Bell for 2017 3rd
I just believe the guy won't get enough looks in TB, it was time for me to move on to a new lottery pick

So I now have...
1.08
1.09
2.02
4.05
4.08
4.09
4.10
5.03
5.04
5.03
5.06

2017
1st rounders: 4
2nd rounders: 6
3rd rounders: 3

Notable Players left
Fitzmagic
Osweiler
Rawls
Yeldon
Mike Evans
Rich Rodgers
I'm not really sure this team had to be blown up...but if you wanted to make it more "your" team, more power to ya.
There were a couple teams that there's no way I would have compete with in the next couple years unless I started to rebuild.
I am loaded in the 2017 draft though

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:39 pm
by ajmyk
PhadedCN wrote:
akbfrosty wrote:Gave: Todd Gurley

Received: Donte Moncrief and Kevin White

14 team ppr

Tough trade to pull the trigger on, but I like the upside it added to my WR's.
Gurley lovers will hate this one.
Geez, even if you're not a Gurley lover at least try to sell him to a Gurley lover in your league ^^

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:15 am
by Madadamus
GoBison90 wrote:I joined a 10 man IDP dynasty league, previously owned by a Broncos-obsessed owner who traded away many picks to fill the roster with as many Denver players as possible. I came in, and I don't value many Denver guys very high in fantasy. QB situation was 2 man (Manning/Osweiler), RB situation 2 man (Hillman/CJA), WR situation 2 man (DT/Sanders). So that being said, I don't like anyone really that much. So I went into full rebuild mode and here are the trades I made:

1. Megatron + Justin Houston for 2016 5.05, 2017 1st + 4th
This was before the news of his retirement, and I was glad to get the deal even if I had to give up Houston, because I have a particular IDP strategy I like to deploy.

2. Gronk for 2016 1.09 and 2017 1st
Probably not the best deal I could have gotten for him, but my team is definitely not a contender, I wasn't going to receive a better deal from the guys, and I was eager to acquire picks


3. Jordan Reed for 2016 1.08, 4.08, 5.04, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
This one was especially hard for me to do, because I am a Redskins fan and I know he is the 2nd best TE in the league, but Reed's injuries worry me way too much and I received a good haul of picks

4. CJ Anderson for 2016 4.05, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
I know CJ is a great talent, and he deserves the job, but who knows what will go on there. I personally do believe that he should be the full time started and could produce huge numbers, but I also thought that last offseason and look where it got me...


5. Emmanuel Sanders for 2016 4.09 and 2017 2nd
Didn't receive much interest in him, but I had almost no interest in keeping him, plus the 2nd rounder I received here is from a team that should finish safely towards the bottom of the standings


6. David Cobb + Jerrick McKinnon for 2.02 and 4.10
I just wanted to make a deal, didn't value these guys highly and liked the value at 2.02

7. Demaryious Thomas for TJ Yeldon + 2017 2nd
I liked this deal a good amount, Yeldon is a young talent and I can use him as a bargaining chip to earn myself at the very least another 1st rounder


8. Josh Gordon + 2017 3rd for 2017 1st
This was when Gordon's status was unknown, and the 3rd rounder was from a big contender team

9. Kenny Bell for 2017 3rd
I just believe the guy won't get enough looks in TB, it was time for me to move on to a new lottery pick

So I now have...
1.08
1.09
2.02
4.05
4.08
4.09
4.10
5.03
5.04
5.03
5.06

2017
1st rounders: 4
2nd rounders: 6
3rd rounders: 3

Notable Players left
Fitzmagic
Osweiler
Rawls
Yeldon
Mike Evans
Rich Rodgers
These trades are really, really bad. I understand you are rebuilding and think there are a couple of stacked teams but you really missed a ton of value. You gave away Gronk. You nearly got the same amount of value for Reed.

C.J. Anderson is a buy low, I would not have traded him for a random 2nd next year and I know the draft is deep but he should fetch a lot more.

The Sanders deal is worse. He is turning 29 but he was the #19 WR this year and #5 last year. He put up over 1100 yards and basically missed 2 whole games. A 2017 2nd? Again the class is deep but he is worth a lot more than this.

DT is worth so much more than Yeldon. Your thinking is flawed saying at worst you can trade Yeldon for a 1st. DT should be getting at a bare minimum 2 1sts on his own.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:05 am
by DrNoish
Madadamus wrote:
GoBison90 wrote:I joined a 10 man IDP dynasty league, previously owned by a Broncos-obsessed owner who traded away many picks to fill the roster with as many Denver players as possible. I came in, and I don't value many Denver guys very high in fantasy. QB situation was 2 man (Manning/Osweiler), RB situation 2 man (Hillman/CJA), WR situation 2 man (DT/Sanders). So that being said, I don't like anyone really that much. So I went into full rebuild mode and here are the trades I made:

1. Megatron + Justin Houston for 2016 5.05, 2017 1st + 4th
This was before the news of his retirement, and I was glad to get the deal even if I had to give up Houston, because I have a particular IDP strategy I like to deploy.

2. Gronk for 2016 1.09 and 2017 1st
Probably not the best deal I could have gotten for him, but my team is definitely not a contender, I wasn't going to receive a better deal from the guys, and I was eager to acquire picks


3. Jordan Reed for 2016 1.08, 4.08, 5.04, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
This one was especially hard for me to do, because I am a Redskins fan and I know he is the 2nd best TE in the league, but Reed's injuries worry me way too much and I received a good haul of picks

4. CJ Anderson for 2016 4.05, and 2017 2nd + 3rd
I know CJ is a great talent, and he deserves the job, but who knows what will go on there. I personally do believe that he should be the full time started and could produce huge numbers, but I also thought that last offseason and look where it got me...


5. Emmanuel Sanders for 2016 4.09 and 2017 2nd
Didn't receive much interest in him, but I had almost no interest in keeping him, plus the 2nd rounder I received here is from a team that should finish safely towards the bottom of the standings


6. David Cobb + Jerrick McKinnon for 2.02 and 4.10
I just wanted to make a deal, didn't value these guys highly and liked the value at 2.02

7. Demaryious Thomas for TJ Yeldon + 2017 2nd
I liked this deal a good amount, Yeldon is a young talent and I can use him as a bargaining chip to earn myself at the very least another 1st rounder


8. Josh Gordon + 2017 3rd for 2017 1st
This was when Gordon's status was unknown, and the 3rd rounder was from a big contender team

9. Kenny Bell for 2017 3rd
I just believe the guy won't get enough looks in TB, it was time for me to move on to a new lottery pick

So I now have...
1.08
1.09
2.02
4.05
4.08
4.09
4.10
5.03
5.04
5.03
5.06

2017
1st rounders: 4
2nd rounders: 6
3rd rounders: 3

Notable Players left
Fitzmagic
Osweiler
Rawls
Yeldon
Mike Evans
Rich Rodgers
These trades are really, really bad. I understand you are rebuilding and think there are a couple of stacked teams but you really missed a ton of value. You gave away Gronk. You nearly got the same amount of value for Reed.

C.J. Anderson is a buy low, I would not have traded him for a random 2nd next year and I know the draft is deep but he should fetch a lot more.

The Sanders deal is worse. He is turning 29 but he was the #19 WR this year and #5 last year. He put up over 1100 yards and basically missed 2 whole games. A 2017 2nd? Again the class is deep but he is worth a lot more than this.

DT is worth so much more than Yeldon. Your thinking is flawed saying at worst you can trade Yeldon for a 1st. DT should be getting at a bare minimum 2 1sts on his own.
There's so much in this it's crazy and I'm too Michoelob'd up to say much. I know, I know, but my girl drinks it so I'm stocked.

The difference between the Gronk and Reed trade makes me feel really odd. You're betting your entire next several years on just hoping that you have a chance at hopefully possibly hitting on a few players that hopefully possibly have a chance at even coming close to the value these players have. I honestly can see Reed going, but Gronk? Say Reed lasts two more years, how do you replace the production of either of those players with those picks without being stupid lucky?

This will definitely give your own personal spin on the team, but Jesus... If you're happy with it, yes, more power to ya brother. I know I'd rather lose with a team I love than win with players I hate, but there's a line for me too. I'm just really nervous for you. You could be a genius. But basing your team off the 2016/17 drafts being the drafts of all time is super heavy.

Remember, like the Yeldon trade, you view the RB as a young talent and bargaining chip. I learned quick that in dynasty people don't give a crap about RB's. If he isn't a top 5 solid he isn't worth anything. So basically if he doesn't turn into Bell he isn't anything but a hold. I'm stacked at RB, and nobody cares. My best offer at Gurleys top was Cobb while Cobb was his worst. Don't count on RB payday unless it's compete time and you're out already and taking a risk on your end

Like I said earlier, my response is a bit... not sober. I hope it works for you, I really do. I like that you want to make your team. I'm worried your value of picks is way off. Can you even keep all of these players you're picking?

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:43 pm
by sugbear65
12 team PPR 1/4pt per carry

Gave- Charkandrick West & 1.08
Got- J. McKinnon & Maxx Williams

I feel like I lost out some on perceived value, but I like McKinnon and think Maxx will be a value riser this offseason, so I'm good with it.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:35 pm
by BuckeyeNation
sugbear65 wrote:12 team PPR 1/4pt per carry

Gave- Charkandrick West & 1.08
Got- J. McKinnon & Maxx Williams

I feel like I lost out some on perceived value, but I like McKinnon and think Maxx will be a value riser this offseason, so I'm good with it.
Definite overpay right now, but I don't mind it. This is one of those classic off-season trades where you buy players that you predict will be worth substantially more next season. Player values are so static this time of year that these are the type of moves you have to make if you want to buy on players that you think will blow up.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:28 am
by BuckeyeNation
Gave: Decker/TY Montgomery/Niles Paul (other owner has Reed)
Got: Diggs/VJax/Charles Johnson

This trade was simply about getting Diggs. I sold out for a championship last year, and now I'm left trying to reload on the fly with no '16 picks. I have Calvin on this team too, so obviously that hurt. VJax doesn't carry much of any value anymore, but he's still been a solid producer when he's been on the field. With reports suggesting that he'll return to TB in '16, he might be a decent low end WR2 start for another year.

Re: Offseason 2016 completed trades AND discussion

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:19 am
by Madadamus
Just stole Gronk in TE Premium league with salaries ($300 cap, 16 team league):

Gave: Jordan Matthews ($28), 1.08 ($27), and Clive Walford ($2) for
Received: Rob Gronkowski ($70)