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Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:21 pm
by Anteaters
frerichs5 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:19 pm
Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:03 pm
Maybe I'm the only one (maybe not). But I seriously check, re-check, and check again before sending trade offers. My heart rate increases, and I actually get a little nervous before I actually click "send". Possibly making too big a deal out of a fantasy trade, but I honestly worry a bit that I'd clicked the wrong player/asset, and I make doubly sure that I haven't before I propose a deal.
Maybe why I've never had the misfortune of sending an offer I didn't actually mean to send.
Not only that, I find myself logging back into the site 5-10 minutes after I’ve sent it to look at outstanding proposals and double check it again. Haha
THIS!
and
THIS TOO!
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:29 pm
by killer_of_giants
you get bijan in a trade and you don't go to your team page to rosterbate IMMEDIATELY?!?
yeah right...
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:43 pm
by SoftwoodGrampian
Minority report - I would reverse if the owners all plea innocence on the mistake. Also there must have been no trading after the fact. If those conditions are met, I’d reverse because it seems like a friendly league, not high stakes. I would take a league vote, however to be fair.
My biggest concern is a trade like this causing fallout from other owners (but seems like no one cares?) Damage control if friends league.
All other accounts I would simply let the trade stand.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:14 pm
by Bronco Billy
If you need to ease your conscience, offer him up your 2nd or 3rd rounder to lessen the sting on him. According to the trade calculator here you got as much of a plus on the trade as his initial offer with Bijan would have gotten him.
As for me, I would have either double checked my offer before sending or more likely looked at my roster immediately after the trade to see how my new roster looked and caught the mistake right after and engaged with you to let you know I screwed up and tried to rectify. But 2 weeks later after he got messaged about it? Don’t think I’d go for a redo.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:21 pm
by meineymoe
If you had accidentally sent Bijan instead of Brian, would you ask for a reversal 2 weeks later?
Also, I can't imagine anyone would send both Bijan and Purdy for Stroud. This is almost like karma for him trying to get the best of you.
In your shoes, I wouldn't feel a need to do anything. Done is done, move on.
-oo-
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:32 pm
by TheTroll
Yeah this is a tough one. Would help if you made the accidental deal in a league with friends. Regardless your mistake should be notified immediately after acceptance to the commish.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:51 pm
by Prison_Mike
Ice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:06 pm
People put too much in the timeline during the off season.
Honest mistake is the real question but he made the offer it sounds like so not sure this is even an issue.
Did you own both Robinson players?
Asking the important questions here. I thought about this when I read this earlier but thought it would have been mentioned in the original post if that wasn’t the case. Please tell us you do in fact roster both B.Robinsons?
Also back to Sleeper: when you send an offer, doesn’t it immediately send you into your trade partner’s DM’s with the offer laid out, where it displays names AND pictures of the players? It does that for me at least; I guess maybe that’s a feature you can disable?
Anyway, yeah that’s tough. Generally I’m the type to reverse anything when someone says they made a mistake. But this is a bit too far out. Unless he can provide proof of it being a legitimate mistake (such as a screenshot of the friends’ conversation with time stamps), I’d just say sorry but it’s been 2 weeks. You’re under no obligation to even go to those lengths, I just mean if it’s going to cause a stir in the league, that’s the only way I’d even entertain the conversation
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:03 pm
by FantasyFreak
Ice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:06 pm
People put too much in the timeline during the off season.
Honest mistake is the real question but he made the offer it sounds like so not sure this is even an issue.
Did you own both Robinson players?
Agreed. If you own both Robinson's, I think it's likely an honest mistake. Nobody would offer up Stroud for what he did intentionally in a SF format, IMO.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:17 pm
by SoftwoodGrampian
It doesn’t matter if he owns both B Robs. The guy could have seen B Rob and never even thought of Brian, thinking Bijan all the while.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:34 pm
by Prison_Mike
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:17 pm
It doesn’t matter if he owns both B Robs. The guy could have seen B Rob and never even thought of Brian, thinking Bijan all the while.
Sure, but it at least makes the “honest mistake” excuse a bit more believable.
I can understand targeting Bijan and mistakenly clicking on Brian because another B.Robinson happens to be on your trade partner’s team.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:14 pm
by Anteaters
Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:34 pm
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:17 pm
It doesn’t matter if he owns both B Robs. The guy could have seen B Rob and never even thought of Brian, thinking Bijan all the while.
Sure, but it at least makes the “honest mistake” excuse a bit more believable.
I can understand targeting Bijan and mistakenly clicking on Brian because another B.Robinson happens to be on your trade partner’s team.
No excuses for a two week interval.
I don't know about you, but as soon as a traded is executed, I go look at my team and get excited about starting my new players. ESPECIALLY if the player is on the level of Bijan FREAKING Robinson!!! I would have been checking my roster every hour, looking at his name, clicking on his bio to stare lovingly at his picture like a sixteen year old in love for the first time, thinking about all the fun we would have together later this year when we hooked up. ... reminds me of a girl I once knew ... uh back to the point.
No one can tell me the other guy did not look at his roster one time in thirteen days to see who was on it. What? Was the guy on a secret CIA mission in Russia? Was he on a secret NASA mission to the Moon? I'm sorry, but a two-week delay simply does not pass the smell test. I do not believe he did not check his roster for two weeks after such a huge trade.
But the assumption here is a dynasty manager traded a T5 dynasty QB for a T2 dynasty RB and.he.never.once.looked.at.his.roster.after.the.trade. FOR TWO WEEKS??? I'm sorry, but that strains the limits of credulity.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:04 am
by SoftwoodGrampian
Two weeks = perhaps the league isn’t a very serious one
At least the one guy isn’t
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:57 am
by Valhalla
Anteaters wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:14 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:34 pm
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:17 pm
It doesn’t matter if he owns both B Robs. The guy could have seen B Rob and never even thought of Brian, thinking Bijan all the while.
Sure, but it at least makes the “honest mistake” excuse a bit more believable.
I can understand targeting Bijan and mistakenly clicking on Brian because another B.Robinson happens to be on your trade partner’s team.
No excuses for a two week interval.
I don't know about you, but as soon as a traded is executed, I go look at my team and get excited about starting my new players. ESPECIALLY if the player is on the level of Bijan FREAKING Robinson!!! I would have been checking my roster every hour, looking at his name, clicking on his bio to stare lovingly at his picture like a sixteen year old in love for the first time, thinking about all the fun we would have together later this year when we hooked up. ... reminds me of a girl I once knew ... uh back to the point.
No one can tell me the other guy did not look at his roster one time in thirteen days to see who was on it. What? Was the guy on a secret CIA mission in Russia? Was he on a secret NASA mission to the Moon? I'm sorry, but a two-week delay simply does not pass the smell test. I do not believe he did not check his roster for two weeks after such a huge trade.
But the assumption here is a dynasty manager traded a T5 dynasty QB for a T2 dynasty RB and.he.never.once.looked.at.his.roster.after.the.trade. FOR TWO WEEKS??? I'm sorry, but that strains the limits of credulity.
Not everyone spends hours per day on a forum reading about and talking about other fantasy leagues and the owners they don't know and the trades they may have mistakenly (or not mistakenly) made. Remember, Anteaters, that people on this site are the rarity of dynasty players. Most are not THIS invested. Most play it as a casual game...in which they have fictional "ownership" of players for their fictional team.
Finding it incredulous that someone wouldn't check in on their roster for a couple weeks in the offseason isn't weighted in reality. It's weighted in a strange community of fanatics.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:50 pm
by Anteaters
Valhalla wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:57 am
Anteaters wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:14 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:34 pm
Sure, but it at least makes the “honest mistake” excuse a bit more believable.
I can understand targeting Bijan and mistakenly clicking on Brian because another B.Robinson happens to be on your trade partner’s team.
No excuses for a two week interval.
I don't know about you, but as soon as a traded is executed, I go look at my team and get excited about starting my new players. ESPECIALLY if the player is on the level of Bijan FREAKING Robinson!!! I would have been checking my roster every hour, looking at his name, clicking on his bio to stare lovingly at his picture like a sixteen year old in love for the first time, thinking about all the fun we would have together later this year when we hooked up. ... reminds me of a girl I once knew ... uh back to the point.
No one can tell me the other guy did not look at his roster one time in thirteen days to see who was on it. What? Was the guy on a secret CIA mission in Russia? Was he on a secret NASA mission to the Moon? I'm sorry, but a two-week delay simply does not pass the smell test. I do not believe he did not check his roster for two weeks after such a huge trade.
But the assumption here is a dynasty manager traded a T5 dynasty QB for a T2 dynasty RB and.he.never.once.looked.at.his.roster.after.the.trade. FOR TWO WEEKS??? I'm sorry, but that strains the limits of credulity.
Not everyone spends hours per day on a forum reading about and talking about other fantasy leagues and the owners they don't know and the trades they may have mistakenly (or not mistakenly) made. Remember, Anteaters, that people on this site are the rarity of dynasty players. Most are not THIS invested. Most play it as a casual game...in which they have fictional "ownership" of players for their fictional team.
Finding it incredulous that someone wouldn't check in on their roster for a couple weeks in the offseason isn't weighted in reality. It's weighted in a strange community of fanatics.
That's all true, you're completely right.
Valhalla wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:57 am
a strange community of fanatics.
Guilty as charged. I beg for the mercy of the court.
Re: Trade Reversal Request from Owner
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:11 pm
by Jigga94
Agree with Valhalla. I usually lean towards reversing trades. 2 weeks in the regular season is a lot. 2 weeks between the combine and draft? Not really.
I still think with the context of him discussing the trade and all that, this example is just buyers remorse