CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

[KCLep20]

I’ll be happy if he puts up Kirk Cousins level production for the next 10 to 15 years

Cousins has been a fringe top 12 QB for almost a decade now, I'd be thrilled if Stroud ends up as that with a few seasons being top 6-8 and then a few down years between 12-14. He might not be top 5 due to lack of rushing, weapons, etc. but he looks like a startable option in superflex leagues.

[Anteaters]

. but he looks like a startable option in superflex leagues.

I'm at a crossroads for team 2 in my sig. Might start starting Stroud instead of Carr. Maybe this week, or maybe I give Carr one more week. I don't think Carr is a terrible option, but Stroud looks like he might be a better fantasy option already.

[jordanzs]

I’ll be happy if he puts up Kirk Cousins level production for the next 10 to 15 years

Cousins has been a fringe top 12 QB for almost a decade now, I'd be thrilled if Stroud ends up as that with a few seasons being top 6-8 and then a few down years between 12-14. He might not be top 5 due to lack of rushing, weapons, etc. but he looks like a startable option in superflex leagues.

I'll admit, I'm biased as I took him in round 2 of a Superflex TE premium best ball startup in August. This league devalues rushing QBs so I took him over Richardson. And I took him over AJ Brown, Olave, etc. I'm actually feeling pretty good about it even though I got laughed at by my leaguemates.

[ericanadian]

. but he looks like a startable option in superflex leagues.

I'm at a crossroads for team 2 in my sig. Might start starting Stroud instead of Carr. Maybe this week, or maybe I give Carr one more week. I don't think Carr is a terrible option, but Stroud looks like he might be a better fantasy option already.

I have Stroud and Stafford and am making similar consideration. Will probably go with whoever is playing the worse defense.

[Anteaters]

. but he looks like a startable option in superflex leagues.

I'm at a crossroads for team 2 in my sig. Might start starting Stroud instead of Carr. Maybe this week, or maybe I give Carr one more week. I don't think Carr is a terrible option, but Stroud looks like he might be a better fantasy option already.

I have Stroud and Stafford and am making similar consideration. Will probably go with whoever is playing the worse defense.

I hate doing that because whoever I switch to usually has the worse week. In my team 1 sig, I started Lamar in week one because Baltimore played Houston, and Tua went off. Then in week 2 I started Tua over Lamar and Lamar was a lot better. Same thing with team D on that team - I started Baltimore (vs Houston) in week 1, and we all know what Dallas did to the Giants.

I'd rather make the call for either Stroud or Carr and stick with it for three or four weeks before switching up. But that might not work out either.

[j4pac]

Insanely small sample size. Can’t compare the rookie QBs yet

[ButtFumbleCity]

Insanely small sample size. Can’t compare the rookie QBs yet

Sure you can. Is it worth it to compare stats? No but you can certainly look at their play and see that Stroud and AR are playing above initial expectations. Young is not but I'm not but I'm not holding it against him yet.

[Anteaters]

Three games. Zero interceptions. And his first win.
I'm jus' sayin'

[ButtFumbleCity]

Can we say he's good yet or is it too small of a sample size?

[Anteaters]

https://x.com/BradeauxNBA/status/170350 ... 60224?s=20

Let us know if someone posts something similar for a rookie QBs first three games. Stroud is looking like he might be on some sort of historic run to start a career.

[FantasyFreak]

He looks miles better than Young, and cost a lot less. Of course it's early. BUT, Stroud was supposed to struggle early, and Young was "pro ready". The narrative doesn't look like the reality, already, and Young is hurt 2 games in, which was also a major concern. It's an extremely small sample size, but for Young, it's also extremely concerning.

[remedy29]

I thought Stroud was going to bust based on that S2 test.

Frank Reich should never be allowed to make a QB decision for a franchise again. If the Panthers get the 1st overall pick, they need to fire Reich quickly.

[FantasyFreak]

I thought Stroud was going to bust based on that S2 test.

Frank Reich should never be allowed to make a QB decision for a franchise again. If the Panthers get the 1st overall pick, they need to fire Reich quickly.

I just never understood the price they paid for an outlier. Maybe it works out, but the price they paid, Young needs to be a top 10 QB for his career, IMO. They could have used that pick to build OL, or D, and had a real shot at Caleb next year, or another top end QB.......or maybe grab a guy like Shedeur Sanders on day 2..... I kid, Giles, I kid.

This is what happens when franchises get desperate, though. Hiring a re-tread, to have a say in the process,too. IF I recall correctly, there was some real debate within the building, on who to take, which is never good. Sort of like the Lance situation. Not at all saying Bryce is Lance, but to make a move like this, there should be zero debate.

I am trying to think of the big trade UP, that worked at QB, recently. Help me out. There was RG3, Lance, recently. Any others I am missing?

Honestly, in regards to Reich, he looks old, tired and disengaged. He's not HC material. I'm amazed after what happened in Indy, that this organization would hire him and then pay that kind of capital to provide him with a QB. Insane. It was a ridiculous move, but IDK, maybe I'm wrong.

Reich was a good OC, but much like his playing days, is best playing 2nd fiddle. The Panthers are a mess.

The Texans look like the hired a good HC, who has the players playing above their pay grade already. They've likely hit on a few guys, in the non premium rounds too. They look like they have a rudder, and that bodes well for Stroud.

[StripesOfKC]

I thought Stroud was going to bust based on that S2 test.

Frank Reich should never be allowed to make a QB decision for a franchise again. If the Panthers get the 1st overall pick, they need to fire Reich quickly.

I just never understood the price they paid for an outlier. Maybe it works out, but the price they paid, Young needs to be a top 10 QB for his career, IMO. They could have used that pick to build OL, or D, and had a real shot at Caleb next year, or another top end QB.......or maybe grab a guy like Shedeur Sanders on day 2..... I kid, Giles, I kid.

This is what happens when franchises get desperate, though. Hiring a re-tread, to have a say in the process,too. IF I recall correctly, there was some real debate within the building, on who to take, which is never good. Sort of like the Lance situation. Not at all saying Bryce is Lance, but to make a move like this, there should be zero debate.

I am trying to think of the big trade UP, that worked at QB, recently. Help me out. There was RG3, Lance, recently. Any others I am missing?

Honestly, in regards to Reich, he looks old, tired and disengaged. He's not HC material. I'm amazed after what happened in Indy, that this organization would hire him and then pay that kind of capital to provide him with a QB. Insane. It was a ridiculous move, but IDK, maybe I'm wrong.

Reich was a good OC, but much like his playing days, is best playing 2nd fiddle. The Panthers are a mess.

The Texans look like the hired a good HC, who has the players playing above their pay grade already. They've likely hit on a few guys, in the non premium rounds too. They look like they have a rudder, and that bodes well for Stroud.

Pretty much any team that isn't terrible terrible is going to have to pay a price to draft a QB

As a team that did it I have zero regrets

Even if it didn't work out though I'd take it over rolling out Andy Dalton or Desmond Ridder

Bryce Young may bust but I can't blame the Panthers for actually trying unlike some very un-serious franchises

[BabyChark23]

I thought Stroud was going to bust based on that S2 test.

Frank Reich should never be allowed to make a QB decision for a franchise again. If the Panthers get the 1st overall pick, they need to fire Reich quickly.

They won’t get it. The Bears have the Panthers 2024 1st.