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Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:18 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
Paul717 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:04 pm
Following. And I think I speak for everyone when I say we need more of this:
Comps
Slow Melvin Gordon
Lol !
Are you planning to include some blips on the "next tranche" of 2023 RBs? E.G. guys like Charbonnet, Spears, Bigsby, Roschon? Or is that not really what this thread is generally about? Or...are they all JAGS in your humble opinion?
Sorry, was just super lazy about it this year. It’s possible I’ll add it in at some point before the season starts but not likely. I was waiting to post this thread until I got motivated and did all the work but it never happened so just posted the basics.
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:14 pm
by moishetreats
Thank you this year and as always, DD!!
For what it's worth, I don't think you owe any apologies. You're doing us all a huge service, and we're just deeply grateful. Thank you!!
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:35 pm
by Csl312
moishetreats wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:14 pm
Thank you this year and as always, DD!!
For what it's worth, I don't think you owe any apologies. You're doing us all a huge service, and we're just deeply grateful. Thank you!!
Couldn't have said it better.
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:44 am
by nathanq42
Achane, he is super close to tier 1 in your model. At the combine he was listed at 188 lbs. Assuming he didnt lose a step and is walking around at 195+ now, do you think he would reach the threshold for tier 1?
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:30 pm
by grooner
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:57 pm
grooner wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:10 pm
Thank you again for doing this/posting it! Would love if you updated the hit rates as well (to include one more year) as I find that super interesting.
Yeah probably will do that next year
Sweet! Thanks for doing it
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:42 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
nathanq42 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:44 am
Achane, he is super close to tier 1 in your model. At the combine he was listed at 188 lbs. Assuming he didnt lose a step and is walking around at 195+ now, do you think he would reach the threshold for tier 1?
That would be a big assumption, but yes he would if he didn't lose a step.
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:27 pm
by Forza_Azzurri
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:42 pm
nathanq42 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:44 am
Achane, he is super close to tier 1 in your model. At the combine he was listed at 188 lbs. Assuming he didnt lose a step and is walking around at 195+ now, do you think he would reach the threshold for tier 1?
That would be a big assumption, but yes he would if he didn't lose a step.
So I'm completely pulling this out of my bleep, but maybe there is something to it ... could Achane's speed be amplified (or his lack of size be minimized as a factor) since he is on a team with so many other speed guys? Basically, his career arc will be much different in Miami than if he had been drafted by Pittsburgh.
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:13 pm
by Cameron Giles
nathanq42 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:44 am
Achane, he is super close to tier 1 in your model. At the combine he was listed at 188 lbs. Assuming he didnt lose a step and is walking around at 195+ now, do you think he would reach the threshold for tier 1?
He's confirmed to be at 192
And still really, really fast
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:29 pm
by Finfansteve
Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:27 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:42 pm
nathanq42 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:44 am
Achane, he is super close to tier 1 in your model. At the combine he was listed at 188 lbs. Assuming he didnt lose a step and is walking around at 195+ now, do you think he would reach the threshold for tier 1?
That would be a big assumption, but yes he would if he didn't lose a step.
So I'm completely pulling this out of my bleep, but maybe there is something to it ... could Achane's speed be amplified (or his lack of size be minimized as a factor) since he is on a team with so many other speed guys? Basically, his career arc will be much different in Miami than if he had been drafted by Pittsburgh.
I totally understand what you’re saying and believe that yes you have a point that his speed will be amplified on a team where the defenders will be paying so much attention to the other track stars on the team. I see more big plays for him on this team with these teammates than on a team of normal speed guys like Pittsburgh so you’ve got a point
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:52 pm
by jojo5151
Any Intel on Sean tucker ? Picked him up late in draft due to the hype .
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:21 pm
by nathanq42
Ah, I've seen recently that he is now looking at 197. Not confirmed or official in any capacity, but I would assume if there sag 197 he is hovering around that 192-197 range
I am so excited to see what this Miami offense can do. You have to play cover 2, but you cant give a guy like Achance any space either.. Such a conundrum for defenses
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:02 pm
by Bot101
Thanks DD!
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:54 am
by j4pac
jojo5151 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:52 pm
Any Intel on Sean tucker ? Picked him up late in draft due to the hype .
UDFA with a heart condition. I’m lower than most. The problem is that even if he gets a chance, the medical risk is non-modifiable and that will always hurt his value. Thus far he is doing drills
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:30 am
by Cameron Giles
nathanq42 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:21 pm
Ah, I've seen recently that he is now looking at 197. Not confirmed or official in any capacity, but I would assume if there sag 197 he is hovering around that 192-197 range
I am so excited to see what this Miami offense can do. You have to play cover 2, but you cant give a guy like Achance any space either.. Such a conundrum for defenses
If he's at least 5'9, 192, which is confirmed, then he currently at a 28.4 BMI. That's .7 less than Jahmyr Gibbs (same height, 7 pound difference), .1 less than Tony Pollard and .3 higher than Christian McCaffrey. I just couldn't imagine a few points making me concerned about size to that level when he checks so many other boxes.
Re: 2023 Running Back Report
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:42 pm
by mild
Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:30 am
If he's at least 5'9, 192, which is confirmed, then he currently at a 28.4 BMI. That's .7 less than Jahmyr Gibbs (same height, 7 pound difference), .1 less than Tony Pollard and .3 higher than Christian McCaffrey. I just couldn't imagine a few points making me concerned about size to that level when he checks so many other boxes.
Agreed with this. He's discount Gibbs this year if you've already talked yourself into that profile.
Aaaaaand in saying that, he's now injured "Day to Day"
Head coach Mike McDaniel listed Achane as "day-to-day" after the running back didn't suit up for Saturday's practice due to an undisclosed injury, Travis Wingfield of the Dolphins' official site reports.